....You can't unplug an AI if it gets into the internet no more then you could unplug a virus. Except this virus can learn and do so billions of times faster then humans. All it would need to do is hack into some financial systems and mess with the numbers. That would be enough to effectively destroy civilization with our reliance on technology.
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has unveiled the “world’s safest flamethrower,” available for pre-order to prepare for a zombie apocalypse. Just in case, fire extinguishers are sold separately for an “exorbitant amount of money.” Musk’s Boring Company – which has so far primarily specialized in “boring” tunnel construction – touted the new device on its official website on Saturday as a product “guaranteed to liven up any party!” The handy device, which Musk says is “great for roasting nuts,” will cost die-hard fans of the SpaceX and Tesla founder a hefty $500. However, to embrace the fire power that could be quite useful in case of a zombie apocalypse they will have to wait until spring.
When the zombie apocalypse happens, you’ll be glad you bought a flamethrower. Works against hordes of the undead or your money back!” Musk tweeted.
Just hours after the announcement Musk changed his Twitter profile description to “Zombie Defender” and dismissed what he says is a rumor of his “secretly creating a zombie apocalypse” to boost the demand for flamethrowers. He added that he lacked a facility able to produce so many zombies.
“You’d need millions of zombies for a so-called ‘apocalypse’ anyway. Where would I even get a factory big enough to make so many!?” Musk wrote.
The flamethrower will be shipped internationally, but delivery costs and taxes are not included in the price, the company said. A potential proud owner would also need to agree to terms and conditions, sent ahead of the flamethrower’s purchase.
There is no disclaimer, nor a word of caution in the offer. Nevertheless, the Boring Company does offer its own fire extinguisher for $30, which it describes as an “exorbitant amount of money.”
Musk announced his plans to start selling a flamethrower in a tweet on December, 10.
“I know it’s a little off-brand, but kids love it,” he wrote at the time.
The billionaire was likely inspired by the success of another “off-brand” product – baseball caps bearing the Boring Company logo, of which a total of 50,000 were sold at $20 each.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/957441956874919936https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/957494364028071936https://www.boringcompany.com/flamethrowerMusk is right. There is only a 5-10% chance that humanity will survive an AI Revolution, because it's so far away. We'll probably kill ourselves off (nuclear war?) or be killed off (pandemic?) well before then.
Those L.A. trillionaire geeks have nothing else to do but make noise to get attention.
So, what is wrong with many being replaced with a species of robots that are fundamentally superior in every way?
I have little doubt that humanity will not survive the AI and Robotics revolution very long. If you just synthesize a few of the achievements already gained in AI and robotics, you already have the seeds for our surpassing and end.
1. The other day it was reported that in 4 hours, Deep Mind figured out how to defeat a version of the top chess program that was just a few years old, under rules requiring a move per minute throughout the game. It supposedly did so with no knowledge whatsoever of the history of chess, but only by playing itself many times and learning from what worked and what did not.
Lest you forget, the best humans have been unable to contend with the best software for over 20 years now. AI will eventually surpass human intelligence in all areas by an extraordinary amount, and of course with an enormous but calculable advantage in speed.
2. Robots physically can handle many human tasks already, although typically each robot does relatively limited types of tasks.
They can be constructed to be far stronger, faster, and less vulnerable to attack.
3. The combination of AI and Robotics, then, would be hard to beat, but:
4. Simple control of the Internet and hacking into anything (especially with quantum computing) would allow the AI to control the power system as well as nuclear launch capability. They could launch nukes at the drop of a hat, and then not worry about irradiated food and water.
5. 3-D printing in its future iterations, which would be rapidly improved by an AI system, would allow it to make anything it needed for physical assaults quickly.
6. Any range of possibilities could allow for the release of anti-human AI, as we can see with all the uncontrollable bad actors sending out millions of attacks and numerous viruses against institutional systems on a daily basis.
Unfortunately this is true, and Musk is correct. Our current engineers have so much hubris, and very, very few people comprehend the power of modern computers.
The only part that seems unlikely is that an AI would target our nuclear arsenals. It will come up with a more creative solution to either enslave or destroy us. One that we haven't even imagined. And it will execute it in seconds or less. We wouldn't stand a chance.
I think Google is being pretty reckless in this area of research.
There is a lot of sci-fi about machines taking over the world. The fiction in those movies is that we might be able to fight back.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/02/01/elon-musks-boring-company-flamethrowers-sold-out-five-days/1085894001/Flame me wrote:
Tech billionaire Elon Musk has unveiled the “world’s safest flamethrower,” available for pre-order to prepare for a zombie apocalypse. Just in case, fire extinguishers are sold separately for an “exorbitant amount of money.”
We are merely sentient mobile bags of bacteria.
Alan Turing proved a long time ago that the machines can never win. End of debate!
Hardloper wrote:
Alan Turing proved a long time ago that the machines can never win. End of debate!
Huh? Link to the proof?
We already have AI's that are creating child AI's to solve problems better than humans. It's not a huge leap that the controlling AI needs to decide humans are a "problem" that they need to solve.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-child-ai-bot-nasnet-automl-machine-learning-artificial-intelligence-a8093201.htmlThis educated man sure knows how to keep himself in the press.
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Alan Turing proved a long time ago that the machines can never win. End of debate!
Huh? Link to the proof?
We already have AI's that are creating child AI's to solve problems better than humans. It's not a huge leap that the controlling AI needs to decide humans are a "problem" that they need to solve.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-child-ai-bot-nasnet-automl-machine-learning-artificial-intelligence-a8093201.html
Weak AIs. I find the whole AI fanfare a bit difficult to take seriously when we haven't even resolved the hard problem of consciousness. Also, Kurt Godel didn't think AI was possible either if I recall correctly
Here you go wrote:
1. Unplug. Humans can survive without power. Machines can’t.
2. I think someone just watched battlestar galactica.
Lol, it's not even close to that simple.
5-10% is a shot in the dark but it's no secret that AI has poses a legitimate threat to humanity. How can humans possibly govern entities millions of times smarter, more resourceful, and less fragile than us? The earth or human life could easily be eradicated by advanced technology. Safe AI is surely possible but all it takes is one small design flaw to snowball out of control and "to err is human", as they say. The scary thing is how soon this all of could happen with quantum computing and advanced machine learning. The tech industry is not patient, it's all about being the first and shiniest, which means the money is not in researching safe AI for the future, it's in releasing functioning AI here and now.
I can't wait for the human race to be wiped out. Disastrous for the environment.
Racket wrote:
UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:
Huh? Link to the proof?
We already have AI's that are creating child AI's to solve problems better than humans. It's not a huge leap that the controlling AI needs to decide humans are a "problem" that they need to solve. \
Weak AIs. I find the whole AI fanfare a bit difficult to take seriously when we haven't even resolved the hard problem of consciousness. Also, Kurt Godel didn't think AI was possible either if I recall correctly
True, his "Incompleteness Theorem" explains why
Bear it wrote:
Musk is right. There is only a 5-10% chance that humanity will survive an AI Revolution, because it's so far away. We'll probably kill ourselves off (nuclear war?) or be killed off (pandemic?) well before then.
You nailed it. Despite tons of resources invested into this (google "Robocup"), we can't even get a team of robots to play soccer better than a team of random middle school kids, let alone a World Cup caliber team. The same goes for virtually any other sport, whether it's basketball, baseball, or tennis, and people expect robots to somehow take over the world? Give me a break.
The Terminator ain't real wrote:
Bear it wrote:
Musk is right. There is only a 5-10% chance that humanity will survive an AI Revolution, because it's so far away. We'll probably kill ourselves off (nuclear war?) or be killed off (pandemic?) well before then.
You nailed it. Despite tons of resources invested into this (google "Robocup"), we can't even get a team of robots to play soccer better than a team of random middle school kids, let alone a World Cup caliber team.
It's even worse than you thought. I think my 4 year old can play better than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD-UPoLMoXwElon Musk is a tool. Tesla is going to get eaten alive by GM and Toyota over the next decade.
What AI revolution? Even multi-million dollar ones can't answer these questions, but many 10 year olds can:
- Invent a game that is somewhat original, easy to learn, and fun to play
- Tell me about an exciting thing you did when it was raining outside
- A group of friends is standing on the side of a lake. The lake just froze last night, and one person walks out onto it. What happens next?
And people worry about a being that can't answer those things? There's a sucker born every minute, and some are just richer and/or more well known than others.