What was Rupp's final 10k?
What was Rupp's final 10k?
mindweak wrote:
i dont know jack huh? thats why i predicted van's WR, while prob you and everyone else was listening to vant/calc***o talking about merrit and how he would crush the WR
i have been saying for that past 3 months that rupp is a 2:09 guy and people keep saying im an idiot, and how he will run a 2:05-6 at chicago, and how i didnt know anything about track and field.
well what did ruppy poop run? oh yeah thats right a 2:05!!! how amazing you guys were right and i was wrong and i dont know anything!
so he goes out in 66 and comes back 63....you think thats impressive? trying going out in 62 and coming back 61....when 62 is your max you cant go out any faster that 64, watch what happends when ruppy poop tries to go out 63 or faster....BLOW UP and run a 2:11
So, if he had run 2:08:59, is he still a "2:09" guy? He may not have a 2:04 or 2:05 in him, but to think he isn't capable of a 2:07 makes you, well, weak minded.
Bill Rodgers ran 2:09:55 in 1975, stopping twice to tie shoes. Eating junk food. He is Americas greatest.
How about Bekele's victory in Berlin 2016?
I'm surprised no one mentioned that yet.
Overall fast time 2:03:03
first half 61:11, second half 61:52 (finishing tactics with Kipsang).
35 to finish 21:02
40 to finish 6:08 (!!!!)
Does anyone here have track of hist last 10K?
Super human finish off a fast pace.
on second thought Kenny waited till around the last 2 miles to really crank up the speed... so maybe the final 10K wouldn't be as fast...
You, sir, are a genius. Well played. Truth will out.
mindweak wrote:
who cares
thats like Mo running a 14:30 5k and running his last mile in sub 4....who cares
i said ruppy poop would run a 2:09 and everyone would make excuses for him
the ladies ran fast, so this "it was hot" is worthless
others said "its a slow course", but the course record is 2:03:45, so that excuse is worthless.
rupp is a 2:09 guy, still nothing changed. i said he would go out in 64 high/65 low...no it was worse, 66!
but like i have been saying for the last 2 months, rupp is maxing out at 62 flat, and that is 2:08-09. "but but but tactical, slow course, training through, recovering from an*l sex"
when ruppy poop can go drop a 58 mid, and hit 62 in route, then i will consider thinking he can drop a 2:05. but the reality is HE CANT and he WONT
so sick and tired of this "but he is a 26:44 guy"
no he WAS a 26:44 guy, now he is off the sauce, the heat has been on NOP and salazar. no one listens to me. as soon as centro pulled his mystery illness this summer he ran like sh*t, and same with rupp. running 28 lows and 62s, while everyone made excuses. "he has no speed cause its marathon training" yet still claiming he has 26:44 speed lol
if the heat ever gets to the point where ruppy poop has to go under oath, that will be a bad day for sal, NOP, mo and centro...among many others
i have said it before and i will say it again. sal and kara had an affair...is it really adams son or sals? she wants to scream foul but is TERRIFIED of the dirt sal and nike has on her.
she would have to admit she sauced, and would have to expose some of her runner friends, and then sal has the blackmail of exposing their affair...im sure adam would divorce her right away. i have no doubts sal would leak juicy emails maybe nudies she send him. she will prob never have the courage to follow through...but....
if ruppy poop goes under oath and starts spilling beans, lots and lots of shady and made for TV drama will emerge. you really think cain just up and left cause she was running like sh*t? or do you think her super conservative upbringing said no to sals ways? who knows maybe he tried getting fresh on her since kara moved on.
bottom line, rupp runs a fast ending to 1970s era times and you guys act like he can give kipchoge a run for his money. no dude is 2:09, NOP is still under some heat, one day hopefully it will all be exposed. i will smile
there's a lot of nonsense being posted here
rupp's fast finish, combined with slow pace to 35k indicates to me a guy who flat-out from gun is currently in
~ 2"06-flat/low
that is very good by traditional western standards
no one is too sure what shape hall was in on that "windy" 2"04+, so i woud probably put rupp as intrinsically quickest with baldini somewhat behind as fastest white, european origin M runners
perhaps lopes & steve jones are close behind baldini, but rupp has right to be considered fastest intrinsic non-african M runner ever
Rojo, I am not the first person to say this, but as soon as I saw how Rupp raced, I also thought Lopes in LA in 1984.
My memory says they ran 5 flat pace for 20, then Lopes ran ~29:20 for the last 10K
calculo wrote:
there's a lot of nonsense being posted here
rupp's fast finish, combined with slow pace to 35k indicates to me a guy who flat-out from gun is currently in
~ 2"06-flat/low
that is very good by traditional western standards
no one is too sure what shape hall was in on that "windy" 2"04+, so i woud probably put rupp as intrinsically quickest with baldini somewhat behind as fastest white, european origin M runners
perhaps lopes & steve jones are close behind baldini, but rupp has right to be considered fastest intrinsic non-african M runner ever
Uh, no. Ryan Hall has run 2:06:17 in addition to his sub 2:05 at Boston. Come back when you sober up.
Thank you. Reading the thread I thought LR had lost its mind.
So Bekele was faster than Rupp in every kilometer or just 41 of 42?
Hall doesn't count since he is now African via adoption.
So...according to Señor mindtweak: "Rupp is off the sauce"...yet runs one of the fastest last 10Ks in marathon history. Pretty F---in' impressive if you ask me.
About 10 seconds faster than Lawrence Cherono (20:47) and Nobert Kigen who went 1-2 in Amsterdam. Their 35k - 40k split (14:23) was faster than Rupp's though. And that is when he dropped Kirui. So if Rupp is "just a 2:09 guy", then these guys just have to run at 2:07 pace to take the kick out of his legs?
Oh, and the Amsterdam guys started going way before 35k. Rupp went after.
the long run wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
The only difference is that those runners ran WR pace for the first half of their race, not 2:13 pace. So of course he was going to have blazing speed in the bag.
There is nothing to think about with this slow a s s race. Hell, look at what they covered in Berlin in the first half of that race running at 20 seconds above record pace at one point.
They basically ran a 1 hour 40 min warm up, and then ran a 10k in Chicago
Don't dismiss so easily the difficulty of picking up the pace off a slow tempo. Many runners find it easier to sustain a hard pace than to change gears like Rupp had to do. It's all about rhythm.
You're correct. Also, despite all the accusations, Rupp has been drug tested constantly while his competition for the most part avoids out of competition testing and protection from officials whenever possible that allows them to skate even if tests are positive.