Where did they even get the money to buy the rights? they are awful
Where did they even get the money to buy the rights? they are awful
This is what you fail to realize. Flotrack is a business and they are out for profit...
Did LRC ever hear back from the NCAA with a satisfactory answer as to why Turner was able to sell NCAAs and put it behind a paywall?
Better yet -save your money and get the results from LR; then dial it up taped on YouTube. I've watched Tokyo, Berlin, London and many other major european road races or XC within hours of the race.
runnerboy1 wrote:
Better yet -save your money and get the results from LR; then dial it up taped on YouTube. I've watched Tokyo, Berlin, London and many other major european road races or XC within hours of the race.
I'll wager Flotrack will be out to protect their "investment" and will be issuing DMCA takedowns as fast as the videos appear.
Holy cow how does know one understand that you can just use Hola or some other IP masking thing and watch from a different country. Everyone complaining on here can watch for free, so stop the bitching.
I have to laugh at the number of people who are opposed to capitalism when they're on the paying end.
ThatAverageRunner wrote:
Holy cow how does know one understand that you can just use Hola or some other IP masking thing and watch from a different country. Everyone complaining on here can watch for free, so stop the bitching.
Hola is high risk. Some have claimed Kiddie porn people can download illegal stuff and it could be raced to your IP.
A paid for real VPN is a better option. Period.
survey says wrote:
I have to laugh at the number of people who are opposed to capitalism when they're on the paying end.
Don't think they're opposed to capitalism, just the price. Based on the hate for flotrack on these boards I would guess that they're only marginally profitable at best. They try to produce a lot of stuff and that can't be cheap. At least they're employing some folks at the moment I guess.
survey says wrote:
I have to laugh at the number of people who are opposed to capitalism when they're on the paying end.
I'm all for capitalism. I'm not for monopolies when the only company that is allowed to sell a given product ruins the quality of that product in every meaningful way.
The FloTrack site is a technical nightmare, and they have ruined MileSplit in just the same way, They learn from their mistakes in the sense that they learn to apply them more and more energetically as time passes.
The make canceling very difficult by design because they are eager to bill for services not rendered, and when you cancel, you're done being able to watch meets at that moment, even if you're only two days into the month you paid for. Here, they are trying to get people to wait until the last possible moment to cancel and in so doing forget to actually do it and thus fork over another $20.
Worst of all, the "announcers" all act and sound like 14-year-olds on bath salts whose knowledge of track and field extends to a very quick perusal of Haile Gebreselassie's Wikipedia page. If certain humans are ever forced to undergo those "debarking" larynx operations that some dogs have to get, these screeching weenies would be at the very top of the list along with Gilbert Gottfried and Sandra Bernhard.
All in all, FloTrack is a huge pile of crap, and everyone who works there in an admin capacity deserves to be on the streets of Erie, Pennsylvania, huddled together in a large cardboard box, ravaged by infected open sores, sharing bottles of Purple Drank and Listerine, and complaining about it in grating, hysterical tones -- an event I would be pleased to livestream for free.
Aunt Flo's Tracks wrote:
survey says wrote:I have to laugh at the number of people who are opposed to capitalism when they're on the paying end.
I'm all for capitalism. I'm not for monopolies when the only company that is allowed to sell a given product ruins the quality of that product in every meaningful way.
The FloTrack site is a technical nightmare, and they have ruined MileSplit in just the same way, They learn from their mistakes in the sense that they learn to apply them more and more energetically as time passes.
The make canceling very difficult by design because they are eager to bill for services not rendered, and when you cancel, you're done being able to watch meets at that moment, even if you're only two days into the month you paid for. Here, they are trying to get people to wait until the last possible moment to cancel and in so doing forget to actually do it and thus fork over another $20.
Worst of all, the "announcers" all act and sound like 14-year-olds on bath salts whose knowledge of track and field extends to a very quick perusal of Haile Gebreselassie's Wikipedia page. If certain humans are ever forced to undergo those "debarking" larynx operations that some dogs have to get, these screeching weenies would be at the very top of the list along with Gilbert Gottfried and Sandra Bernhard.
All in all, FloTrack is a huge pile of crap, and everyone who works there in an admin capacity deserves to be on the streets of Erie, Pennsylvania, huddled together in a large cardboard box, ravaged by infected open sores, sharing bottles of Purple Drank and Listerine, and complaining about it in grating, hysterical tones -- an event I would be pleased to livestream for free.
Whoa that escalated quickly.
You proved my above point though.
Someone can't help but hide the MASSIVE amount of BUTTHURT they have.
Aunt Flo's Tracks wrote:
survey says wrote:I have to laugh at the number of people who are opposed to capitalism when they're on the paying end.
I'm all for capitalism. I'm not for monopolies when the only company that is allowed to sell a given product ruins the quality of that product in every meaningful way.
The FloTrack site is a technical nightmare, and they have ruined MileSplit in just the same way, They learn from their mistakes in the sense that they learn to apply them more and more energetically as time passes.
The make canceling very difficult by design because they are eager to bill for services not rendered, and when you cancel, you're done being able to watch meets at that moment, even if you're only two days into the month you paid for. Here, they are trying to get people to wait until the last possible moment to cancel and in so doing forget to actually do it and thus fork over another $20.
Worst of all, the "announcers" all act and sound like 14-year-olds on bath salts whose knowledge of track and field extends to a very quick perusal of Haile Gebreselassie's Wikipedia page. If certain humans are ever forced to undergo those "debarking" larynx operations that some dogs have to get, these screeching weenies would be at the very top of the list along with Gilbert Gottfried and Sandra Bernhard.
All in all, FloTrack is a huge pile of crap, and everyone who works there in an admin capacity deserves to be on the streets of Erie, Pennsylvania, huddled together in a large cardboard box, ravaged by infected open sores, sharing bottles of Purple Drank and Listerine, and complaining about it in grating, hysterical tones -- an event I would be pleased to livestream for free.
Exactly.
They are liars and steal money from other humans.
…and you may also have the solution in your answer.
Can we have someone on a bike follow Kenenisa Bekele during the Dubai Marathon and Livestream Bekele World Recordâ„¢ with their i-phone or something like that???
(We did it with Robert Young.)
ThatAverageRunner wrote:
whendidit wrote:I'm going to use that hola add on as well.
If anyone knows of countries that are NOT blocked we can use to disguise IP as, please let me know.
I've used Hola without any issues before.
The UK didn't seem to be on that list, so it should work.
Hola is not a safe VPN add-on unless you like your ip being part of a botnet
Aunt Flo's Tracks wrote:
survey says wrote:I have to laugh at the number of people who are opposed to capitalism when they're on the paying end.
I'm all for capitalism. I'm not for monopolies when the only company that is allowed to sell a given product ruins the quality of that product in every meaningful way.
The FloTrack site is a technical nightmare, and they have ruined MileSplit in just the same way, They learn from their mistakes in the sense that they learn to apply them more and more energetically as time passes.
The make canceling very difficult by design because they are eager to bill for services not rendered, and when you cancel, you're done being able to watch meets at that moment, even if you're only two days into the month you paid for. Here, they are trying to get people to wait until the last possible moment to cancel and in so doing forget to actually do it and thus fork over another $20.
Worst of all, the "announcers" all act and sound like 14-year-olds on bath salts whose knowledge of track and field extends to a very quick perusal of Haile Gebreselassie's Wikipedia page. If certain humans are ever forced to undergo those "debarking" larynx operations that some dogs have to get, these screeching weenies would be at the very top of the list along with Gilbert Gottfried and Sandra Bernhard.
All in all, FloTrack is a huge pile of crap, and everyone who works there in an admin capacity deserves to be on the streets of Erie, Pennsylvania, huddled together in a large cardboard box, ravaged by infected open sores, sharing bottles of Purple Drank and Listerine, and complaining about it in grating, hysterical tones -- an event I would be pleased to livestream for free.
Hey man, if you can make the Erie thing happen, I think you could stream it for $5, at least I'd pay that much, maybe 10 if I could watch a beer mile before the main event.
why is that a bad thing?
Seriously.... you really think that's bad??
what a shame. I can watch the stream here, but it starts at 320am.
i hope there is a nice match at the AUS Open or some snooker highlights from 100-320
NBPT Runner wrote:
I would have paid $5 to watch Dubai tonight or maybe i would have paid watch the NCAA XC race, but like someone else said $20 a month is more than Hulu or netflix and those sites actually have stuff I want to watch.
I'm not defending their actions but do you guys know how things work? When few people want to watch something, then you need to charge a lot to make any money for it. The fact that millions will stream netflix is totally different.
Nice events are going to cost more.
Now that doesn't mean I like the fact they are charging for Dubai.
There is another thread called "Suggestions for flotrack."
Here is what I wrote there.
Rojo wrote:
My suggestion is simple - Just don't piss me off.
There are two concrete suggestions that go with that.
1) Continue to be a streaming site for parents of HS and college athletes. It's way cheaper for mom and dad to pay to watch the stream of some po-dunk meet than it is to get in a car and go watch it. I'm sure there is money that can be made in that.
You'd have to pay me to watch the Yale Track Classic, Carnegie Mellon Invitational, 2017 New Mexico Collegiate, etc. Make your money off of that.
There's no need to piss the fans off and little money to be made with the pro events. The sport isn't that popular. Make your money on the parents.
Universal Sports already showed there isn't money to be made in streaming the pro events. Paying Dubai for the rights and getting 50 people to sign up isn't wildly profitable (well I guess it might be if they forget to cancel and you get them on the hook for $200 each).
Just do the po-dunk HS and college meets. But that's not sexy. It's sexier to act like you are a journalist and perhaps more importantly it's sexier pitch to VCs the line "We are the ESPN of Olympic sports" than to say "We are a HS and college streaming service of niche sports that only mom and dad pay to watch but there are a lot of mom and dad's out there."
2) If you are going to force people to pay, at least let them know how much it's going to cost and let pay for a one off event. Don't make them sign up for a membership first before finding out the price and then make that membership automatically recurring.
And perhaps my favorite post from that thread:
Thinkaboutit wrote:
I have no problem with FloTrack covering events that aren't being covered and charging for that service. That is a noble business and they should of course demand appropriate compensation for that.
But buying the U.S. rights to the Dubai Marathon, which up until this week was to be freely distributed to U.S. viewers, is just ridiculous. They've added ZERO value to the coverage and have mostly just pissed a bunch of people off.
I understand that they're running a business, but it doesn't seem like FloTrack has a sense of their place in the industry or what their prospective audience and customers want. As a result, their business model is going to flounder until they hopefully adjust their strategy or fold out of business.
Do they not own the rights in Australia?