Tits mcgee wrote:
Why do people think people cant break 5? From what I remember in highschool anyone who really put in effort for a few years broke five. Even the really unathletic kids. One kid from our team weighed over 230 pounds and a few years later broke 5.
The whole point is that its without any training. Yes of course, a brilliant athlete such as himself could break 5 with some training.
El Cheapo wrote:
How many 6'4", 200 pound dudes with size 14 feet break 5 for the mile? Most swimmers can't run, most runner's can't swim.
I'm 6'5", 190 with size 13 feet and I can break 5 for the mile. So... at least one.
I definitely can't swim though
Stupid question. Of course he can break 5. Retarded kids can break 5.
durrr wrote:
Stupid question. Of course he can break 5. Retarded kids can break 5.
not this year, russia's banned.
He is not some clumsy clown on land.
The translation of swimming ability to running seems to be spotty and unpredictable. Phelps is such a big guy, that I'd question him being able to break 5. I've seen swimmers come out and tear it up as runners and I've had a school record breaking swimmer run 30 minutes for 5k in cross country. I realize high school record holder is a long way from world class, but I really don't think you can know for sure how a swimmer will run.
I don't think so. Warning, anecdote ahead:
I'm friends with a former D1 All American Swimmer, swimming in many of the same events as Phelps. I remember running with him. I don't think he could have broken 6 in the mile...
Usain Bolt, I do think so, with a rabbit, but it wouldn't be easy for him.
Webb was a swimmer before he started running. Pretty sure he broke 5.
track marathonist wrote:
Here's a video of him "running":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZK5yBFLgII'm guessing 200m track with a 36s 100, so he is running at best 9:00 pace. Obviously he could run faster, but if that's his training speed, that should give you an idea about his race-specific training. I couldn't find any mentions anywhere of him doing strides or repeats or anything.
Have you even watched the video? He's holding back so much (low turnover, cadence of maybe 150 spm) that he looks uncomfortable at that pace. Like me trying to run 11 min/mi with gf. Looks like his more "natural" running pace would be closer to 7:30-8:00, with 6:00 not being an all out effort given the horsepower. Perhaps not today (less than 25% chance) but with very minimal training (4-6 weeks, perhaps 3 months) I wouldn't bet against a 4:55 mile. Not 4:30 though, but 4:50-5:10 type of range.
only with training and weight loss. Even then maybe not break but come close to. Great cardio but the wrong biomechanics. One guy posts a video of him pushing a prowler and says hes not clumsy on land ha. nobody is going to look awkward running while pushing one of those.
Bolt, post season in best cardio shape with a pacer yes. Difference being that he could actually be good at the 800 and ok at the mile if he trained for these events.
If he lost weight he probably could. He may lose muscle too and not be able to swim well then.
Since phelps is clearly a better swimmer than any runner currently living is a runner...perhaps a more interesting question is could rupp or farah (or whomever) break 230 in the 200 IM?
Phelps needs both aerobic capacity and far more technical skills than a runner. He's a far more advanced athlete. He's past his prime and still the best swimmer alive. Spare me the shallow talent pool on this one.
And I ran 1430 for 5k..,so not amazing by any stretch but I'm a runner.
Ledecky couldn't run a 9 minute mile when she won Olympic gold at 15:
The question of Ledecky’s overall athleticism is something of a running joke in her inner circle.
When Bruce Gemmell first began coaching Ledecky in the fall of 2012 — taking over after Suguiyama left for a job at the University of California following the London Games — he was surprised to find out she couldn’t do three unassisted pull-ups or run a nine-minute mile. When he had Ledecky undergo a battery of physical-assessment tests at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, one of the first sentences of the opening summary, according to Gemmell, referred to her as “remarkably unremarkable.â€
“She has to have enormous lung capacity,†mused Jack Roach, USA Swimming’s consultant for athlete and coach relations. “But we don’t measure that. You don’t really need to.â€
El Cheapo wrote:
How many 6'4", 200 pound dudes with size 14 feet break 5 for the mile? Most swimmers can't run, most runner's can't swim.
any proof..6'4 200 is kinda big.
El Cheapo wrote:
How many 6'4", 200 pound dudes with size 14 feet break 5 for the mile? Most swimmers can't run, most runner's can't swim.
I'm about the same size and don't exercise much except for lifting these days but could easily break 5:30 (I know this from going to the treadmill and cranking out a hard mile after basically months of no running), and if I did a lot of swimming only for just 3-4 weeks I'm betting I would have the fitness to break 5.00.
>How many 6'4", 200 pound dudes with size 14 feet break 5 for the mile?
>Most swimmers can't run, most runner's can't swim.
Actually I'm 6'4" and dreaming to be 200lb again. I did 1500m in 4:36 in my first and only try at the age of 35. It's was a dreadful race where everyone entered 4:30 but no-one had ever done it. No willingness to lead and I got boxed in and stepped on all the time. In that particular race I was a bit under 200lb. My fitness was crap though, compared to when I raced mountainbikes.
Phelps may not have the legs though. I'm his opposite, 39+ inch inseam. Phelps is said to have 30", and to wear 32" pants (different articles) where I wear 38".
In all that chest of his, he might have a good set of lungs. If he can go through the 2-step left-right dance called running decently (any sports celeb seems to be able to do a great tango) he may as well power on to a 16-flat minute 5K. I know my stupd body would get close to that if I tried harder. I did 18 flat on a few months of eating no carbs and mid distance training. Not exactly best possible for my old slacking ass.
Phelps with a bit of training yes.
Bolt? No, mentally couldn't handle it.
seriously mate watch it wrote:
[quote]track marathonist wrote:
Here's a video of him "running":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqZK5yBFLgIHave you even watched the video? He's holding back so much (low turnover, cadence of maybe 150 spm) that he looks uncomfortable at that pace. Like me trying to run 11 min/mi with gf. Looks like his more "natural" running pace would be closer to 7:30-8:00, with 6:00 not being an all out effort given the horsepower. Perhaps not today (less than 25% chance) but with very minimal training (4-6 weeks, perhaps 3 months) I wouldn't bet against a 4:55 mile. Not 4:30 though, but 4:50-5:10 type of range.
Looks like about 100 spm
wait, why does his ability to run with a walker make him coordinated on land?
Old forum yes, but I think the fact that he ran a 25:30 5k proves his inability
http://olympics.nbcsports.com/2019/04/17/michael-phelps-tiger-woods-masters/