BREAKING: new study - 60 seconds of stadium stairs as effective as 45 min running

10/10...

He never even gave a link to his so called study and everyone feel for it....

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10/10...

He never even gave a link to his so called study and everyone feel for it....

*fell

Lyfter wrote:

I'm sure you've seen this, since every major publication picked it up today.

Yes, this is really true. High intensity training like running up stadium stairs is as effective as 45 min of endurance running.

The additional benefit is that you will not overuse your joints and will not get arthritis at young age.

Great troll.

Just post the headline.

What's the goal? Certainly it is IMPOSSIBLE to burn the same number calories in 60 seconds as in 45 min of running.

I'm a big believer in HIIT for better fitness with advanced (over 50) age. For years, I've made high intensity short intervals a part of my weekly training, usually something like 6-8 reps of 30 seconds up a steep hill. Studies have shown this boosts T levels in older adults. Recently, I've added upper body HIIT to my routine as well.

I talked with a personal trainer yesterday who said his readings said the sweet spot was 8-15 seconds of high intensity. I see his point because maintaining an all out uphill sprint for longer than 10 seconds is impossible. (Of course, in those HIIT studies, those cyclists aren't really doing 100% all out efforts... it's probably more like 95%.)

My point is that if overall fitness, antiaging, and speeding up metabolism are the goals, then adding HIIT to the weekly routine is a great idea.

I've done fast, short intervals for decades. Twenty years ago, I'd place 7-8th in local 5ks in my age group. Now, I'm first or second.

are you implying that skinny runners don't work as hard as lifters?

At my gym I see fat people on the aerobic machines and skinny people lifting weights. There are people who I have watched for years and their body never changes despite all the lifting of running they are doing.

Twelve Weeks of Sprint Interval Training Improves Indices of Cardiometabolic Health Similar to Traditional Endurance Training despite a Five-Fold Lower Exercise Volume and Time Commitment

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0154075

Gollnick already showed evidence over half a century ago that one can deplete the same amount of glycogen in ~6 min of work at 150% VO2max as 120 min of work at 64% VO2max.

kanny wrote:

Gollnick already showed evidence over half a century ago that one can deplete the same amount of glycogen in ~6 min of work at 150% VO2max as 120 min of work at 64% VO2max.

That is good to know if I am ever in a contest to see who can deplete their glycogen the fastest.

I only race now three or four times a year. I'll do the holiday races if I feel up to it.

And yeah, the weird thing is, I'm "running" less now than I did 10 or 15 years ago, and I'm 10 or 15 years older. And while I used to finish maybe top ten back then, I almost always win now (10k and less, that's all I race).

rjm33 and others will say that's what happens when you get to the 70+ class or whatever, but nobody here has any idea about my age. And few here have any sense at all. Mixing it up is good. HIIT is good.

Context is critical to any discussion. Everyone is missing context.Oh, running does not lead to arthritis. It might actually protect you from it. Since Lyfter is promoting science he should post the studies showing the arthritis epidemic in runners.

Lyfter wrote:

I'm sure you've seen this, since every major publication picked it up today.

Yes, this is really true. High intensity training like running up stadium stairs is as effective as 45 min of endurance running.

The additional benefit is that you will not overuse your joints and will not get arthritis at young age.

Nobody said HIIT is bad. I posted a study showing how it worked in terms of mechanisms of action, in addition to a study on resistance training. They all work and work even better when combined together with traditional high volume moderate intensity aerobic training.

The downside of HIIT is high risk of injury and high risk of burnout if that is the only type of training that is done. I would like to see how the "only HIIT" type training people are doing after 12 years of training instead of only 12 weeks of training. My prediction will be that the vast majority of people would quit that type of "only high intensity" training in less than 1 year.

In summary, HIIT by itself long term is not fun.

I love running up hills with between 50ft and 5000ft of altitude gain. That also works and is fun.

rjm33 wrote:

Nobody said HIIT is bad. I posted a study showing how it worked in terms of mechanisms of action, in addition to a study on resistance training. They all work and work even better when combined together with traditional high volume moderate intensity aerobic training.

The downside of HIIT is high risk of injury and high risk of burnout if that is the only type of training that is done. I would like to see how the "only HIIT" type training people are doing after 12 years of training instead of only 12 weeks of training. My prediction will be that the vast majority of people would quit that type of "only high intensity" training in less than 1 year.

In summary, HIIT by itself long term is not fun.

I love running up hills with between 50ft and 5000ft of altitude gain. That also works and is fun.

Hmmm, you seem autistic. Are you?

Long distance running is not a healthy long term endeavor. If your not a professional runner making a living off of racing and sponsorships and under excellent medical care OR a young person using athletics as means to acquire and/or sustain a University scholarship, then the risks outweigh the benefits of the activity.

Is Spectrum a bot? This bot seems to respond at random, with the same basic comment. Very rarely making any sense.

I did write a 37.4 page letter to the American Psychiatric Association giving them a detailed analysis of why the old term "Asperger's syndrome" was superior and more importantly...a way cooler term to use in conversations.

Is this Fred again on the beet juice?

Here is a warning again on baking soda Mr. smarty pants.

And please do not try your last stunt again by mixing beet juice and baking soda at the same time to try to get PED synergism.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26384407

rjm33 wrote:

he admits to making sure he runs faster than in her out of pride.

Do you see anything wrong with the last sentence?

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Yes, he's saying that he's gay, and has multiple personalities

rjm33 wrote:

Is it Jon Orange?

Nope, no mention of neuromuscular efficiency, although it could be a setup