Ebola=Devil wrote:
Just the real facts wrote:You keep missing the point. Trump is not a disgusting rapist. That is how the media and his opponents potray him. In fact, he literally says things that are the opposite of racist.
This is the "man" who represents you.
https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/trump-reporter.jpg
Why did you quote me? Nothing in your post has to do with what I said. Also, I never said he represents me. Keep failing.
osm wrote:
White privilege is the simple acknowledgment that racism still exists in America, and that by being born white, you will not experience institutionalized oppression based on race. That doesn't make "innocent white people" guilty of anything, it just means that they are fortunate.
Many people go way further than this and do demonize all white people, but the basic concept is pretty easy to understand.
^^^This.
Only, some people refuse to understand this. White privilege does not mean that all white people are equally advantaged or that individuals from a minority group can't hold high social and economic status and power.
It does mean that we live in a society founded on slavery with a history of red-lining and "separate but equal" Jim Crow laws.
It means that my grandfather grew up a poor farm boy, served dutifully in the army and got to go to college on the GI Bill, get a good job and buy a nice house in the suburbs while black soldiers came home from war without these advantages. Advantages are passed now from generation to generation. So, I am being ignorant and denying reality if I say that being white has not yielded certain advantages for me.
Btw, Donald Trump was given "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father (his words in quotes). Please tell me what he has in common with poor white folks in Appalachia, some of whom lack running water still. Does he have any interest in helping poor people (white or black)? I think not.
Disco is being ignorant wrote:
osm wrote:White privilege is the simple acknowledgment that racism still exists in America, and that by being born white, you will not experience institutionalized oppression based on race. That doesn't make "innocent white people" guilty of anything, it just means that they are fortunate.
Many people go way further than this and do demonize all white people, but the basic concept is pretty easy to understand.
^^^This.
Only, some people refuse to understand this. White privilege does not mean that all white people are equally advantaged or that individuals from a minority group can't hold high social and economic status and power.
It does mean that we live in a society founded on slavery with a history of red-lining and "separate but equal" Jim Crow laws.
It means that my grandfather grew up a poor farm boy, served dutifully in the army and got to go to college on the GI Bill, get a good job and buy a nice house in the suburbs while black soldiers came home from war without these advantages. Advantages are passed now from generation to generation. So, I am being ignorant and denying reality if I say that being white has not yielded certain advantages for me.
Btw, Donald Trump was given "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father (his words in quotes). Please tell me what he has in common with poor white folks in Appalachia, some of whom lack running water still. Does he have any interest in helping poor people (white or black)? I think not.
How much time is a white person supposed to spend thinking about white privilege? Serious question. I mean, I'm competing against these other whites that are far more privileged than me. Is thinking about white privilege the best use of my time? And then what about these Asian wonder kids? Why do they kick so much ass? Why are they essentially honorary whites?
Bottom line- You had an advantage because you had a mother and father that raised you right. Were you also white? Perhaps.
After the Great Society programs were implemented in the 60s, the African American illegitimate birth rate skyrocketed. By the time the 80s rolled around, it was over 70% for that demographic. More than 7 out of 10 born into a fatherless household!! That's completely outrageous. (And yes, it rose proportionately across all demographics, but the white illegitimate rate went from like 4 to 12%. 70%+ is an epidemic, and the root of most of the poverty and crime issues in the AA community.
Disco is being ignorant wrote:
Please tell me what he has in common with poor white folks in Appalachia, some of whom lack running water still. Does he have any interest in helping poor people (white or black)? I think not.
Why do you think not? What does that have to do with his million dollar loan or having things in common with poor white folks in Appalachia???
Typical Liberal wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:...
Is there any liberal here who can understand that accusing every white person of having "White Privilege" will turn a lot innocent white people who haven't enjoyed any privileges to turn against the people who promote that?
Yes, that is trivially obvious.
DiscoGary wrote:
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Is there any liberal here concerned that calling all old white Christians racist and ignorant is unfair to a majority of old white Christians?
Yes, that is trivially obvious.
DiscoGary wrote:
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Is there any liberal here who sees everyone as an individual as opposed to a member of some balkanized special interest group?
Yes, that is completely obvious.
DiscoGary wrote:
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No. You won't find one.
You just found one. Which means that you are wrong.
DiscoGary wrote:
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That's the problem, but it is a problem you will never be able to see. The people who can see the problem will support Trump, and you'll never understand why.
No. The real problem is that you are wrong as has been indisputably demonstrated here.
Try being right once in a while. You might find it refreshing.
Beat me to it
spade detector wrote:
Typical Liberal wrote:Yes, that is trivially obvious.
Yes, that is trivially obvious.
Yes, that is completely obvious.
You just found one. Which means that you are wrong.
No. The real problem is that you are wrong as has been indisputably demonstrated here.
Try being right once in a while. You might find it refreshing.
Beat me to it
me, too
yup, wrote:
spade detector wrote:Beat me to it
me, too
I call BS on every one of you. I never see a liberal showing any signs that they believe those things, and you can't just say "me too" after you get called out on it. You just don't see liberals say "hey, you can't call all old white people racist. Stop that.". It doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. Liberals do NOT police themselves.
In over 35 years of political discussions I have never once seen one liberal tell another that the usual vicious insults have gone too far. Never seen it. Not here. Not anywhere. Gotta throw the BS flag on this one.
Disco is being ignorant wrote:
osm wrote:White privilege is the simple acknowledgment that racism still exists in America, and that by being born white, you will not experience institutionalized oppression based on race. That doesn't make "innocent white people" guilty of anything, it just means that they are fortunate.
Many people go way further than this and do demonize all white people, but the basic concept is pretty easy to understand.
^^^This.
Only, some people refuse to understand this. White privilege does not mean that all white people are equally advantaged or that individuals from a minority group can't hold high social and economic status and power.
It does mean that we live in a society founded on slavery with a history of red-lining and "separate but equal" Jim Crow laws.
It means that my grandfather grew up a poor farm boy, served dutifully in the army and got to go to college on the GI Bill, get a good job and buy a nice house in the suburbs while black soldiers came home from war without these advantages. Advantages are passed now from generation to generation. So, I am being ignorant and denying reality if I say that being white has not yielded certain advantages for me.
Btw, Donald Trump was given "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father (his words in quotes). Please tell me what he has in common with poor white folks in Appalachia, some of whom lack running water still. Does he have any interest in helping poor people (white or black)? I think not.
Nope!
White Privelege is an effort to convince white people that they are guilty of all racial injustices since the beginning of time so that they will accept their role as second class citizens and give up their money and positions in society to members of politically correct victim classes.
I will not accept blame for things I have not done and therefore I do not accept White Guilt... oops ... White Privilege.
You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
DiscoGary wrote:
Disco is being ignorant wrote:^^^This.
Only, some people refuse to understand this. White privilege does not mean that all white people are equally advantaged or that individuals from a minority group can't hold high social and economic status and power.
It does mean that we live in a society founded on slavery with a history of red-lining and "separate but equal" Jim Crow laws.
It means that my grandfather grew up a poor farm boy, served dutifully in the army and got to go to college on the GI Bill, get a good job and buy a nice house in the suburbs while black soldiers came home from war without these advantages. Advantages are passed now from generation to generation. So, I am being ignorant and denying reality if I say that being white has not yielded certain advantages for me.
Btw, Donald Trump was given "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father (his words in quotes). Please tell me what he has in common with poor white folks in Appalachia, some of whom lack running water still. Does he have any interest in helping poor people (white or black)? I think not.
Nope!
White Privelege is an effort to convince white people that they are guilty of all racial injustices since the beginning of time so that they will accept their role as second class citizens and give up their money and positions in society to members of politically correct victim classes.
I will not accept blame for things I have not done and therefore I do not accept White Guilt... oops ... White Privilege.
BTW. That is what everyone should say when the topic of White Privilege comes up. Say that and the life-long guilt trip they had planned for you will last about 15 seconds. Anyone who tries to lay blame on you for something you haven't done is your enemy. Remember that.
hahahahahaaaa wrote:
You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
I'll believe it when I see it. Show me.
My generalization that liberals never police themselves is much closer to the truth than the generalization that all Trump supporters are racist morans.
How did you become such an expert in so many areas of modern society?
I am not being a wise guy. You write as though you are bringing fundamental truth to a bunch of backward-thinking rubes.
What are your qualifications?
DiscoGary wrote:
hahahahahaaaa wrote:You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
I'll believe it when I see it. Show me.
My generalization that liberals never police themselves is much closer to the truth than the generalization that all Trump supporters are racist morans.
Once. It happened once, at the 2004 Republican convention Zell Miller, a Democrat ripped the Democrat party for their hyper-partisan behavior which he thought had gone waaaay too far. Look it up on YouTube. It was quite a speech. There are no Zell Millers left in the Democrat party.
I was wrong. It happened once. 15 years ago.
Can anyone else remember another time? Maybe during the Tea Party days? No? I don't remember any liberal trying to call off the dogs.
Once.
HolidayInnExpress? wrote:
How did you become such an expert in so many areas of modern society?
I am not being a wise guy. You write as though you are bringing fundamental truth to a bunch of backward-thinking rubes.
What are your qualifications?
Offering credentials while posting in the valley of the trolls is a ridiculous idea. Do I sound like I'm spreading fundamental truths? I'm just putting my ideas out there to see how they hold up to scrutiny. If I'm wrong I want to change it and get it right. Perhaps it's that characteristic that sets me apart from my liberal friends here.
DiscoGary wrote:
hahahahahaaaa wrote:You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
I'll believe it when I see it. Show me.
My generalization that liberals never police themselves is much closer to the truth than the generalization that all Trump supporters are racist morans.
NEVER?
LIKE EVAR?
hahahahahaaaa wrote:
You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
Liberals think in groups and classes, just like communists and fascists did. Every group gets certain privileges while a central board of fat cats directs it all.
libs hate individuals wrote:
hahahahahaaaa wrote:You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
Liberals think in groups and classes, just like communists and fascists did. Every group gets certain privileges while a central board of fat cats directs it all.
So these "liberals" you describe. .... are they a group?
I thought non-liberals can't comprehend groups, only individuals.
Hahahahahahaha! Use your 2 day old baloney tag line somewhere else.
DiscoGary wrote:
Offering credentials while posting in the valley of the trolls is a ridiculous idea. Do I sound like I'm spreading fundamental truths? I'm just putting my ideas out there to see how they hold up to scrutiny. If I'm wrong I want to change it and get it right. Perhaps it's that characteristic that sets me apart from my liberal friends here.
You are not putting your ideas out there. You are claiming to be teaching in the 'valley of the trolls'.
You are very impressed with what you think are fundamental truths, but mostly you come across as a condescending jackanape.
Do you have a reason to be so full of yourself?
libs hate individuals wrote:
hahahahahaaaa wrote:You deal in absolutes and binary groupthink.
How can you expect to have grown so ups take you seriously? EVERY liberal this.... EVERY liberal that.... you're a joke.
You can't be taken seriously based solely on your use of vast over generalizations.
Liberals think in groups and classes, just like communists and fascists did. Every group gets certain privileges while a central board of fat cats directs it all.
Then how do you explain the formation of monopolies in the largely unregulated markets of the late 1800s? Sure there were some free market fat cats in charge, until the government stepped in to break them up.
Liberals created unregulated markets?
What I see is a lot of folks attacking Disco Gary because he is Disco Gary, a vocal conservative, and assuming that anything he posts must be wrong. I am here to tell you that the article in question is spot on.
I am pretty well educated and fairly normal by most standards... I am also a conservative (Republican, by process of elimination, but really more of a Libertarian).
Trump is an utter clown. He speaks in dependent clauses. And he may damn well win this election, just because folks want to see something different. And yes, folks are tired of PC garbage being shoved down their throats, and they are clinging to their best chance of eliminating it.
Keep in mind, 90% of voters do not educate themselves on the issues, just like 90% of folks in your local Turkey Burner are not "runners". I would venture to say that the average reader of LRC is more educated on the issues than 3/4 of the population, and we are talking about a population that largely got its current events from the Daily Show. My point is, like a Super Bowl commercial with a dancing monkey, folks are gonna vote for who sticks out in their head.
If it wasn't for the PC Left, Trump would simply be dismissed as an insensitive prick. BECAUSE of the PC Left, Trump is instead viewed as a savior by the uneducated majority.
