So what if Mayweather used a PED before the fight? All he does is duck, dance, clinch and run. No hard punches. Most boring so-called "fighter" ever. What good would a PED do for a dancer?
So what if Mayweather used a PED before the fight? All he does is duck, dance, clinch and run. No hard punches. Most boring so-called "fighter" ever. What good would a PED do for a dancer?
Shawn H wrote:
So what if Mayweather used a PED before the fight? All he does is duck, dance, clinch and run. No hard punches. Most boring so-called "fighter" ever. What good would a PED do for a dancer?
Try throwing 100 punches, and feel the fatigue.
Then load up on EPO and do it a week later. Feel any difference?
USADA has issued a POWERFUL 25 page response to the allegations in the SB nation article denying them all point by point.
You can read it here:
Here is a summary by the LA Times.
I think I can sleep much better tonight after reading that.
There is an incredible 7,000+ word piece of investigative journalism out on SBnation by Thomas Hauser that you MUST READ.http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usadaThe article includes the following.1. Fact: In an unannounced test, USADA, which was paid $150,000 to do drug testing for the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, caught Floyd Mayweather injecting himself with an IV the night before his fight with Pacquiao. They did nothing and then 18 days after the fight retroactively gave him a therapeutic use exemption for a procedure that is on the WADA “Prohibited Substances and Methods List.”2.Allegation: For other fights, USADA allegedly busted Mayweather three times on an 'A' test for a prohibited substance. Instead of testing the B sample and possible reporting him as positive, the simply gave Floyd an inadvertent use waiver so they wouldn't have to test the B and report him to the Nevada State Athletic Commision. Details below.
Thomas Hauser wrote:
As reported by this writer on MaxBoxing in Dec. 2012, information filtered through the drug-testing community on May 20, 2012 to the effect that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug. More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive three times and, after each positive test, USADA had given Floyd an inadvertent use waiver. These waivers, if they were in fact given, would have negated the need to test Floyd’s “B” samples. And because the “B” samples were never tested, a loophole in Mayweather’s USADA contract would have allowed testing to continue without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission.
The other doesn't have proof of the 2nd allegation but the circumstantial evidence from the Pacquiao lawsuit against Mayweather is pretty bad as explained below.
Thomas Hauser wrote:
Pacquiao’s attorneys became aware of the rumor (fo the 3 positive tests) in late-May. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy (Mayweather’s co-promoter), and USADA demanding the production of all documents relating to PED testing of Mayweather in conjunction with his fights against Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz, and Miguel Cotto. These were the three fights that Mayweather had been tested for by USADA up until that time....
A stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court on Sept. 25, 2012. The parties agreed to a confidentiality clause that kept the terms of settlement secret. However, prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be. An agreement in principle was reached soon afterward. The settlement meant that the demand for documents relating to USADA’s testing of Mayweather became moot.
If Mayweather’s “A” sample tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug on one or more occasions and he was given a waiver by USADA that concealed this fact from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, his opponent, and the public, it could contribute to a scandal that undermines the already-shaky public confidence in boxing. At present, the relevant information is not a matter of public record.
USADA CEO Travis Tygart (through senior communications manager Annie Skinner) declined to state how many times the “A” sample of a professional boxer tested by USADA has come back positive for a prohibited substance.
These allegations are extremely serious. In these instances, USADA was paid directly by the promoters to do the testing. Was their independence and credibility jeopardized? What does this mean for the organization?
Update: USADA has issued a denial to the first allegation.
http://www.usada.org/usada-statement-inaccurate-news-reports-pro-boxing/USADA wrote:
As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program.
It seems reasonable that USADA wouldn't be concerned he was getting an IV if it wasn't against the rules of the fight.
Update on September 20, 2015
USADA has issued a POWERFUL 25 page response to the allegations in the SB nation article denying them all point by point.
You can read it here:
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdfHere is a summary by the LA Times.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-usada-mayweather-thomas-hauser-boxing-20150917-story.htmlI think I can sleep much better tonight after reading that.
From the LA Times article: "USADA officials say the funds they receive for testing boxers, including the six-figure fee they gained for Mayweather-Pacquiao, pales to the financial backing they receive from other entities..."
LOL ... who knew a six-figure fee was so pale. That is a fee for just a single fight. USADA's Travis Tygart is sure raking in the dough.
rojo wrote:
USADA has issued a POWERFUL 25 page response to the allegations in the SB nation article denying them all point by point.
You can read it here:
http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdfHere is a summary by the LA Times.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-usada-mayweather-thomas-hauser-boxing-20150917-story.htmlI think I can sleep much better tonight after reading that.
read through the document in question, suffice it to say that USADA is a lawyer infested money fetching group.
they are covering up a who lot of bullshhit with this fancy rebuttal.
love how they throw people under the bus with their smug lingo,but this is the kind of vgarbage that can hold up in court,
they give me the CREEPS.
All this noise about cheaters, yet you recognize DUHHHHHHHHHHBYA as legitimately elected.
It's disturbing that anyone would care about such BS nonsense, and even bother to make a nonsensical thread about it.
Surely there are better things to waste one's life with.
Welcome, Freud PR Drone, Quite disturbing. You will never get back the time YOU wasted commenting on a thread you claim is a waste of time.
Quit Disrupting wrote:
Welcome, Freud PR Drone, Quite disturbing. You will never get back the time YOU wasted commenting on a thread you claim is a waste of time.
Actually my time is not wasted, as I've enlightened the rest of you.