How is Galen Rupp entered, and accepted, into the 1500m at US Indoors?!

He qualifies because he won a medal at the last Olympics.

Here's why wrote:

He qualifies because he won a medal at the last Olympics.

Yes, I'm sure Justin Gatlin could enter the 1500 also

Here's why wrote:

He qualifies because he won a medal at the last Olympics.

No.

Holy shit. Only been sad like 6 times before this:

"Any athlete who attains any of the following shall be afforded automatic qualification into a USA Indoor, Outdoor, Race Walking or Marathon Championship or USA Olympic Team selection in the same event in which the performance was attained"[/quote]

More importantly looking at the USATF website for 2014 Indoors it says this:

"Indoor qualifying standards excepting the men's heptathlon and women's pentathlon, must be attained on or after Saturday, November 15, 2013 through Sunday, February 16, 2014."

So, assuming that is correct it leaves only 2 possibilities:

1) Rupp qualification is somehow waived

2) Rupp ran a low key/staged qualifier we don't know about

Qualification opened 1/1/2013. His indoor mile from last year counts.

Here's the language from the rules:

"(a) During the current or four previous calendar years, earned an individual medal in track and field in an Olympic Games or in an IAAF World Indoor or Outdoor Championship. "

I think that's why he qualifies.

And people wonder why USATF has the reputation of being a screwed up organization. This kind of confusion should NOT occur. Blow up the organization and start over. Should be lots of drones left over from the many recent wars.

medalist wrote:

Here's the language from the rules:

"(a) During the current or four previous calendar years, earned an individual medal in track and field in an Olympic Games or in an IAAF World Indoor or Outdoor Championship. "

I think that's why he qualifies.

This.

LM wrote:

Here's why wrote:

He qualifies because he won a medal at the last Olympics.

No.

Holy shit. Only been sad like 6 times before this:

"Any athlete who attains any of the following shall be afforded automatic qualification into a USA Indoor, Outdoor, Race Walking or Marathon Championship or USA Olympic Team selection in the same event in which the performance was attained"

More importantly looking at the USATF website for 2014 Indoors it says this:

"Indoor qualifying standards excepting the men's heptathlon and women's pentathlon, must be attained on or after Saturday, November 15, 2013 through Sunday, February 16, 2014."

So, assuming that is correct it leaves only 2 possibilities:

1) Rupp qualification is somehow waived

2) Rupp ran a low key/staged qualifier we don't know about[/quote]

USATF's rules state that you are afforded automatic entry to US Indoors if you have the World Indoor Championship 'A' standard in the event in which you are seeking to run.

As the IAAF's window for Sopot began on the 1st day of 2013, Rupp's split from his 3:50 mile counts as an 'A' standard for the 1500m in Sopot, this he is exempt from running a 1500m or indoor mile during USATF' Indoor's 2014 qualifying window.

medalist wrote:

Here's the language from the rules:

"(a) During the current or four previous calendar years, earned an individual medal in track and field in an Olympic Games or in an IAAF World Indoor or Outdoor Championship. "

I think that's why he qualifies.

3 people in one page?

RIGHT above that (a) part it says:

Indoor qualifying standards excepting the men's heptathlon and women's pentathlon, must be attained on or after Saturday, November 15, 2013 through Sunday, February 16, 2014.

So it isn't the 10,000 silver doing it.

@james naismith li - If you are correct, then it seems the USATF website is incorrect...which certainly seems a possibility for those guys. Here is the link to where I was getting the Saturday, November 15, 2013 through Sunday, February 16, 2014:

On that webpage it is clearly stated the qualify standards must be achieved between Nov 15th and Feb 16th.

Automatic Qualification under USATF Rule 8:

1. Track and Field -

...

(c) Has a World or Olympic ‘A’ Standard that would apply to the current championship team selection.

A standard for Sopot:

Performances must be achieved during the qualification period of 1 January 2013 to 24 February 2014 (midnight Monaco time), except for the Combined Events (see above).

Augusto E. Perez wrote:

LM wrote:

No.

Holy shit. Only been sad like 6 times before this:

"Any athlete who attains any of the following shall be afforded automatic qualification into a USA Indoor, Outdoor, Race Walking or Marathon Championship or USA Olympic Team selection in the same event in which the performance was attained"

More importantly looking at the USATF website for 2014 Indoors it says this:

"Indoor qualifying standards excepting the men's heptathlon and women's pentathlon, must be attained on or after Saturday, November 15, 2013 through Sunday, February 16, 2014."

So, assuming that is correct it leaves only 2 possibilities:

1) Rupp qualification is somehow waived

2) Rupp ran a low key/staged qualifier we don't know about

USATF's rules state that you are afforded automatic entry to US Indoors if you have the World Indoor Championship 'A' standard in the event in which you are seeking to run.

As the IAAF's window for Sopot began on the 1st day of 2013, Rupp's split from his 3:50 mile counts as an 'A' standard for the 1500m in Sopot, this he is exempt from running a 1500m or indoor mile during USATF' Indoor's 2014 qualifying window.[/quote]

Yep. This certainly seems correct now, just didn't realize the IAAF window was greater than one year. Rojo's probably laughing now at all of us who were still debating after he posted.

If anyone is wondering the IAAF's official wording is:

"Performances must be achieved during the qualification period of 1 January 2013 to

24 February 2014"

Augusto E. Perez wrote:As the IAAF's window for Sopot began on the 1st day of 2013, Rupp's split from his 3:50 mile counts as an 'A' standard for the 1500m in Sopot, this he is exempt from running a 1500m or indoor mile during USATF' Indoor's 2014 qualifying window.

Either the en route 1500 or the the mile counts.

LM wrote: But his 1500m split from London DL meet in June would not have.

Then his time would be listed. Instead there is an NT listed.

Then why the NT?

james naismith li wrote:

Qualification opened 1/1/2013. His indoor mile from last year counts.

NT wrote:

LM wrote: But his 1500m split from London DL meet in June would not have.

Then his time would be listed. Instead there is an NT listed.

He doesn't need a time (during USATF's qualifying window).

I can see him qualifying under the IAAF Champs window theory, but why the NT?

NT = No Telling

CyndiLoper wrote:

I can see him qualifying under the IAAF Champs window theory, but why the NT?

It was not during the USATF qualifying period. If you ran 3:36 this year, you're in. If you ran 3:34 last year, you're in. If you ran 3:36 last year, you're not in.

HardLoper wrote:

CyndiLoper wrote:

I can see him qualifying under the IAAF Champs window theory, but why the NT?

It was not during the USATF qualifying period. If you ran 3:36 this year, you're in. If you ran 3:34 last year, you're in. If you ran 3:36 last year, you're not in.