Superfeet. Another $50 on top of the cost of a shoe is a lot but it's worth it and it can last over a couple pairs of shoes especially if you don't weight a lot.
They will feel strange and the bump at the instep seems to go too far back. Get used to them in casual shoes before running in them if it's too weird. I bought my first Superfeet for PF and it didn't help. Moved one but the PF wouldn't go away so gave them another chance and the second time it really helped.
uneven wrote:
Superfeet. Another $50 on top of the cost of a shoe is a lot but it's worth it and it can last over a couple pairs of shoes especially if you don't weight a lot.
They will feel strange and the bump at the instep seems to go too far back. Get used to them in casual shoes before running in them if it's too weird. I bought my first Superfeet for PF and it didn't help. Moved one but the PF wouldn't go away so gave them another chance and the second time it really helped.
Recently got a pair of super feet carbon with a met pad installed at an orthotics store. Was able to go for my first run with Morton’s neuroma pain since. The bump was about 15 on top of the orthotics, but came out way cheaper than custom.
Thanks Fisky
uneven wrote:
fisky wrote:
I've been making my own orthotics for 15 years. Cost is about 20 cents. I've described the process here many times.
Is there a shoe or shoe type best suited for these inside the shoe modifications?
Not really. You need to be able to remove the existing insert, but I've found that even the ones that are glued in can be removed if you work at it very carefully.
When I first started making my own orthotics, I'd make the first attempt, put on the shoes, and run in them for 100m or so. If I felt a hot spot where there was too much or too little support. I'd stop, remove the shoe, and add another piece of felt, remove a piece, or move a piece to a slightly different location. I carried little pieces of pre-cut crafts felt with me and coaches tape to apply it.
At first, I was surprised that my left and right foot never matched, but I've since learned that this is common. One foot will often need more support than the other.
I also learned that I couldn't make the perfect inserts for one pair of shoes and then swap them to another pair of shoes. Each set of inserts will need to be custom made for each new pair of shoes. However, once you've done it a few times, making a new pair of orthotics only takes a few minutes... far less time than going to a store and getting fitted for a $300 pair of orthotics.
In the past, I'd buy a shoe that fit so poorly, I'd have to start with a Superfeet Green or Black and modify it, but now that I've gotten more experience doing this, I can usually avoid having to use a Superfeet insert.
I recently went to one of these stores,cost me $1,917.31 for a pair of shoes and 3 types of inserts.This is totally a huge scam. Can't even report this to there corporate office or BBB.
usnrtdanny@aol.comwrote:
I recently went to one of these stores,cost me $1,917.31 for a pair of shoes and 3 types of inserts.This is totally a huge scam. Can't even report this to there corporate office or BBB.
It isn't a scam to sell expensive stuff. Lots of stupid people like to overpay for stuff.
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
usnrtdanny@aol.comwrote:
I recently went to one of these stores,cost me $1,917.31 for a pair of shoes and 3 types of inserts.This is totally a huge scam. Can't even report this to there corporate office or BBB.
It isn't a scam to sell expensive stuff. Lots of stupid people like to overpay for stuff.
There are two ways to get rich
1) make your product look like the best ever and sell it for high prices - vaporfly, ironman triathlon entry, etc.
2) make your product the most affordable and sell tons of it- rival spikes, local road race company that puts on a race every weekend
Some people can't pr without the vaporfly, so they're going to pay for it. Some people can't run without custom orthotics, so they'll pay for them.
The most laughable part of the Good Feet Store is that their orthotics are not even custom made. They are just as off the shelf as Superfeet. The only difference is the clerk goes to a back room and pulls them off the shelf instead of you taking them off a rack. They target the wealthy elderly community with their infomercials and even have sales people peddling their wares on cruise boats.
Kvothe wrote:
Some people can't pr without the vaporfly, so they're going to pay for it. Some people can't run without custom orthotics, so they'll pay for them.
Sure and that person could have bought the custom orthotics for 1/4th the price but they chose to pay for some reason. Thats a personal choice.
We took my daugther to a Good Feet store to get some arch support. Her pediatrician recommended them as he said she was still growing and custom inlays would not be appropriate until she was at least 15. We went there, and they did a custome fit with her. Well, custom... size 8 shoe with a wider foot fit.
System of 3 inlays. Cost? $1,200! This is insane! They come with a life-time warranty and get swapped out by The Good Feet store if worn out or whatever. Cost for that is $20 per pair (witout tax, as the sales person stressed).
Quite frankly, I think that is what they truly cost, $20 per pair including a profit margin, not $400 per pair! They are off the shelf, just by shoe size and foot fit, so there is nothing too special about them. There must be another manufacturer who sells something similar?
Malena wrote:
Her pediatrician recommended them as he said she was still growing and custom inlays would not be appropriate until she was at least 15.
Your daughter's pediatrician doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
Malena, orthotics are only good for the shoe that it fits in and feels good after a week or two. You can't expect any orthotic to work the same if you change shoe styles or sizes. All runners go through shoes in a few months. So what chance does any particular orthotic insert have? The foot bed will be different in each different style of shoe.
That being said, a long time ago I came down with PF on one foot, and the nearby running store sold me some $40 inserts that were some sort of carbon plastic, and they took a week to mould to the shape of my feet. Suddenly the pain went away. Have no recall of the brand. Anyway, inserts can certainly help, but it's a quite a gamble, and a waste of money for most.
Highly disagree.
My qualifications:
I hold an MFA in Dance and have been a CMT for 30+ years. I actually worked at a GF store in San Diego years ago and still swear by their product. I no longer represent them or gain benefit by recommending their product.
The fitting is thorough. We are well-trained and tested. it is not a hoax. They offer a lifetime warranty on their products. So even if you think they are breaking down, just head back to the store and they’ll give you new ones, no questions asked.
I also work as a server and a chef. Walking/standing on concrete is deadly and these have made the world of difference to me.
Someone bitched about it costing almost $900 for 3 pairs of varying strength insoles plus a high quality pair of running shoes.
Running shoes alone can cost up to $200. The insoles have a lifetime warranty.
I'm going to ignore the pimply faced kid remark as that’s cruel and unnecessary.
thank you
I have been a sports podiatrist for 47 years, and retired several years ago. I was Board Certified in Podiatric Orthopedics and Podiatric Surgery. I was also a Fellow of the American Academy of Podiatric Sports Medicine. I am also a Licensed Massage Therapist (to expand my scope). I also have taken 500 hours of Applied Kinesiology starting 30 years. I am going back to practice on a limited basis as a Chiropractor friend told me that he has many patients that can't find relief. The reason I am posting this is I had a patient that went to the Good Feet Store and was charged $1500 and couldn't wear them and was unable to obtain a refund. I came here looking to see if that was true.
To make a proper foot orthosis, you have to look at intrinsic and extrinsic pronatory factors. The intrinsic pronatory factors are frontal plane imbalances and Functional Hallux Limitis.
The extrinsic pronatory factors are Equinus (tight calf muscles) and leg lengths (99% of the time they are functional caused by either Ascending or Descending dysfunctions.
The 4 theories on making orthoses are the Weak Foot Theory (by Royal Whitman MD), the Balance Theory (by Carl Bergman DPM), Root's Frontal Plane Theory (by Mert Root DPM) and the Sagittal Plane Theory (by Howard Danenberg DPM).
The theory that I have been working on the last 25 years is Biotensegrity which includes fascial work and the acupuncture system which allow me to eliminate the extrinsic pronatory factors. The Forefoot Varus is an inhibited Adductor Hallucis oblique head and Functional Hallux limitis is usually caused by an inhibited transverse head of the Adductor Hallucis muscle. Using this theory, I am able to treat dancers including the one that taught the master class in Cleveland and returned her to performing.
I have had thousands of running patients over the years which includes Olympic caliber and professional athletes from the three major sports.
That being said, I am still learning on every patient I treat.
To think an off the shelf arch support is the best you can get is ludicrous. BTW, my patient that went to the Good Feet Store is currently doing well. The main problem was the previous fusion of the First Metatarsal Phalangeal Joint (the big toe joint) that required a shoe modification to allow her to roll off the front of her foot and a real pair of orthoses to help the opposite foot's Functional Hallux Limitis to stay corrected.
One more thing, I make my orthoses and I charge way less than the Good Feet Store.
They advertise like crazy on local news.