Presumably, but I would argue that the sort of pain felt by animals is qualitatively different, and of a lesser magnitude than the pain felt by humans. This is because a creature incapable of self-reflection or conscious thought has no way of anticipating the pain, or of recognizing the implications of the pain. The pain is unaccompanied by human emotions like fear, humiliation, despair, etc. There is no thought process to the effect of "Woe is me, I am currently experiencing unprecedented agony and my existence is about to end!"
I believe that when things go according to nature laws, preys are kind of protected (by god, or scientific mechanisms with hormons etc, call it how you want) from suffering too much when giving their life to the predator so that the latter can live.
I have noticed several times - when a cat is chasing and eating a mouse - that after the initial fear and instinct of survival from the mouse, there is a point where the little thing seems to knows it's over and accepts its fate and looks fine with it like "oh well, i'm being eaten by a cat, that's how it is after all, it's not that bad". And doesn't seems to suffer.
I've had the the same feeling watching on tv or youtube a Lion killing an antelope.
Sure you can probably find many counter examples like the video above. But I still think it's how it works most of the time.
I guess I wasn't clear...didn't mean to imply that animals don't feel pain or emotions. Just meant that all other things being equal, a sentient being will feel more pain than a non-sentient being. The physical pain is equal, but the sentient being has an added layer of self-reflexive mental pain that compounds the overall amount of suffering by a LOT. You have the opportunity to reflect on the pain and all its implications before, during, and after the event. The non-sentient being only experiences the here and now. Think about it, would you rather be circumcised as a newborn or as a 25-year-old?
Why do you think humans are so special? All animals can self reflect. It’s called learning.
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The rabbit, a beast of nature, is sometimes paralyzed by the stoat, a predator, by repeated bites into the spinal cord from the top of its neck. The rabbit runs from the stoat, but the stoat pursues relentlessly, catches up and delivers another bite. Eventually the rabbit can no longer move from the extensive nerve damage.
Once the stoat has achieved this, it often chooses its favorite part of the rabbit to eat first - the eyes. Soft and juicy and very tasty to a weaselly stoat creature.
The rabbit is typically still able to cry out in its rabbity agony, as it spends the last few hours of its life in an unimaginable horror, with its non-vital organs consumed by a wretched rodent. The stoat enjoys this very much, being sadistic as most predators are.
The rabbit, a beast of nature, is sometimes paralyzed by the stoat, a predator, by repeated bites into the spinal cord from the top of its neck. The rabbit runs from the stoat, but the stoat pursues relentlessly, catches up and delivers another bite. Eventually the rabbit can no longer move from the extensive nerve damage.
Once the stoat has achieved this, it often chooses its favorite part of the rabbit to eat first - the eyes. Soft and juicy and very tasty to a weaselly stoat creature.
The rabbit is typically still able to cry out in its rabbity agony, as it spends the last few hours of its life in an unimaginable horror, with its non-vital organs consumed by a wretched rodent. The stoat enjoys this very much, being sadistic as most predators are.
I wasn't sure whether you were describing nature or a political allegory.
The rabbit, a beast of nature, is sometimes paralyzed by the stoat, a predator, by repeated bites into the spinal cord from the top of its neck. The rabbit runs from the stoat, but the stoat pursues relentlessly, catches up and delivers another bite. Eventually the rabbit can no longer move from the extensive nerve damage.
Once the stoat has achieved this, it often chooses its favorite part of the rabbit to eat first - the eyes. Soft and juicy and very tasty to a weaselly stoat creature.
The rabbit is typically still able to cry out in its rabbity agony, as it spends the last few hours of its life in an unimaginable horror, with its non-vital organs consumed by a wretched rodent. The stoat enjoys this very much, being sadistic as most predators are.
I wasn't sure whether you were describing nature or a political allegory.
Nature, as in this really happens.
Often stoats will just kill the rabbit quickly, but they sometimes do it this way.
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Seems the mods have started eating this thread alive, like a pack of hyenas. Does the thread feel pain?
Perhaps they are only deleting every bumping post since 4 months ago, to disable it as the stoat does to the rabbit. Then it will linger in hopeless agony as they slowly consume it.
