It is not immoral, just plain stupid from an economical point of view (unless you are very good at skillgames like poker, chess, backgammon).
It is not immoral, just plain stupid from an economical point of view (unless you are very good at skillgames like poker, chess, backgammon).
Vulnerable people are exploited by their gambling addiction. They suffer and their families suffer.
That exploitation is immoral.
I agree. Never understood how people can gamble their money they can't afford to lose to nothing. I was in a casino every day for years and have never played a slot machine in my life.
ghi wrote:
Life is a gamble.
Why is gambling immoral?
Do you gamble?
I do not think gambling is immoral. The idea that it is immoral is a hang-over from Puritanical Christians who would make several arguments as to why gambling is immoral (i.e., it is playing with your money, which ultimately belongs to God; it can lead to other vices or to neglect of your other financial responsibilities...most importantly tithing!; etc.).
But if you take away the imaginary bearded man in the sky, like a rational person, there is no way to prove conclusively that gambling is immoral any more than putting your money in a bank or savings account or IRA or CD or the stock market. There's inherent risk in all of those options.
Is it stupid? That depends. Playing MegaMillions or Powerball is dumb unless you can't do math. Sitting in front of a slot machine for hours on end losing money and drinking sugary, alcoholic drinks is dumb (at least to me). But playing Texas Hold Em with some buddies on a Saturday night for $50 is fun and bonding. I wouldn't classify the last example as stupid or immoral.
Do I gamble? Not regularly. I think I played in a Texas Hold Em tournament about 10 years ago and contributed a few bucks to a March Madness pool last year. Both cases were more about being part of a community and spending time with friends than they were about the actual act of gambling.
Bottom line: who gives a sh*t if some right-wing Jesus person thinks something is immoral. Don't they also think that something like 99% of all humans who ever existed are also going to be tortured for eternity in hell because they didn't say a magical prayer at some point in their lives? It's nonsense.
If you're gambling for entertainment purposes, it is moral.
However..
What I believe is immoral are those that encourage and prey on those that are gambling addicts.
Furthermore, if I'm gambling at a location for entertainment, and I know that location encourages and preys on those are gambling addicts, then yes I believe my gambling in that case is somewhat immoral, because I know my money is going to go fund or enrich those who I know are using that money for immoral purposes. To me, that is not that much different than enriching a business who's owner I know commits hate crimes or preys on kids/women and I know will use my money to do that. I believe morally, my own entertainment isn't worth it.
In short, the act is not immoral, but the casino or location
you gamble at might make it an immoral act.
I don't know how to measure morality...
However, I can say that gambling is a ludic fallacy. True games must occur in non-real space. The magic circle, a baseball diamond, a dollhouse, where we can play without risking real-world dangers. Since gambling looks like a game but uses real money, it is a ludic fallacy. I am personally gambling from time to time here -
I think it is sometimes useful for a person.
Wermant wrote:
I don't know how to measure morality...
However, I can say that gambling is a ludic fallacy. True games must occur in non-real space. The magic circle, a baseball diamond, a dollhouse, where we can play without risking real-world dangers. Since gambling looks like a game but uses real money, it is a ludic fallacy. I am personally gambling from time to time here -
https://1xbet.cm/fr/I think it is sometimes useful for a person.
Gambling isn't immoral, it's amoral. The gaming industry is nothing but a financial intermediary that takes a sliver off every transaction for profit, not unlike any other business, broker, corporation or bank. The participants determine the fairness and value (or lack of) of the transaction.
Only when the State controls gaming does it become immoral. A tax on people who are really bad at math. Bookies could only dream of the profit margins made by government off of gambling.
the problem wrote:
Vulnerable people are exploited by their gambling addiction. They suffer and their families suffer.
That exploitation is immoral.
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They have a mental illness and are being exploited. The really addicted ones spend everything they have feeding their addiction.
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the problem wrote:
Vulnerable people are exploited by their gambling addiction. They suffer and their families suffer.
That exploitation is immoral.
That^
They have a mental illness and are being exploited. The really addicted ones spend everything they have feeding their addiction.
You can say that about anything. People that shop too much, eat too much, too much porn/sex, heck even those that run too much.. they have a mental illness and they are being exploited. They suffer and their families suffer.
Personally, I treat the casino as a way to make money and just enjoy the game playing in poker or slots . It is nothing illmoral there , it's just e ntertaiment .Many people can't control themselves and their addiction , I agree that there isa risk , but we love to take risks coz it make our life more interesting . Here you can try play some casino games https://freespinsnodeposit.bet , may be you are lucky enought , so make sure that you read and know all the rules before starting playing.
NotPC wrote:
This: wrote:
That^
They have a mental illness and are being exploited. The really addicted ones spend everything they have feeding their addiction.
You can say that about anything. People that shop too much, eat too much, too much porn/sex, heck even those that run too much.. they have a mental illness and they are being exploited. They suffer and their families suffer.
But most shops don't set out to exploit mentally ill people. That's the difference. the games industry deliberately does.
Traditionally gambling is immoral because it can make individuals in the underclass rich, which would undermine the system based on the elites being “better,” not just richer.
Have you ever met a gambler who admits they suck at it? Specifically related to card players, I never meet the guy who doesn't win more than he loses.
I don't about morality but I do know that gamblers are inveterate liars.
Periwinkle wrote:
I don't think gambling is immoral, but do think chronic gambling is a sign of weak character that often manifests itself in addiction issues like gambling and associated vices such as alcoholism, drug abuse, sex addiction, PEDs use, and other cheating to win types of behavior.
And to be clear, I'm not talking about someone who goes on a weekend junket to Vegas with friends once a year for a good time, I'm talking about these goons who think that gambling is their profession...the ones who think if they land a 1K win in the course of six months that the 500 hours they spent at the table was worth their time. Gamblers are generally horrible businessmen.
Right, it kind of epitomizes bad decision making and irresponsibility.
When the original commandments were carve , betting using camels as currency caused strife for families living in the dessert . ?
dslkadsf wrote:
Why did you capitalize Get?
It has been branded immoral by the Christian zealots who don't want you to waste money on gambling or games of chance when you could be donating your money to them. They even went so far as to let you deduct donations to religious institutions from your taxes in the USA.
why is anything immoral ?
ray wrote:
IRA's, the stock market, even 529's. Gambling no?
No.