1. okla state
2. stanford
3. wisco
4. nau
5. byu's 35 year olds
6. cholerado
7. wilhelm and mary
8. portland
9. whoregon
10.alabama
and thats how it will go, folks.
1. okla state
2. stanford
3. wisco
4. nau
5. byu's 35 year olds
6. cholerado
7. wilhelm and mary
8. portland
9. whoregon
10.alabama
and thats how it will go, folks.
I have a feeling that Oklahoma is going to have an off-day, Colorado is going to run better than expected, and Stanford will win. My top-5:
Stanford
Colorado
Oklahoma
Portland
Oregon
Brent wrote:
I have a feeling that Oklahoma is going to have an off-day, Colorado is going to run better than expected, and Stanford will win. My top-5:
Stanford
Colorado
Oklahoma
Portland
Oregon
Wow, you think Oklahoma is good enough that on an off day they'll get third at NCAAs? I mean, I know they got second in the midwest region and everything and are having a very quality season... but third? You must think highly off them or have some inside info that us common folk don't have...
ehhhh wrote:
Brent wrote:I have a feeling that Oklahoma is going to have an off-day, Colorado is going to run better than expected, and Stanford will win. My top-5:
Stanford
Colorado
Oklahoma
Portland
Oregon
Wow, you think Oklahoma is good enough that on an off day they'll get third at NCAAs? I mean, I know they got second in the midwest region and everything and are having a very quality season... but third? You must think highly off them or have some inside info that us common folk don't have...
I was referring to Oklahoma State, not Oklahoma University. I don't expect Oklahoma U to even be in the top 10, let alone contend for the title.
Team: OK State
Individual: Sam Chelanga
There's no way Chelanga won't win this year. Rupp's gone and there's no one who can touch him. Everyone says "Ohhh Chris Derrick can beat him, look at Pre-Nats Chelanga got walked down." True, I won't deny the fact that Chelanga got walked down in the last 400m of the race but that was 2 months ago and that was a HUGE Rust Buster for Chelanga. He took a good amount of time off after Track last spring and Pre-Nats was simply a time trial for the man allowing him to get out and see where he's at with his fitness. Chelanga will dominate, you heard it first here.
1. Stanford
2. OSU
3. NAU
1. Chelenga
2. Derrick
3. Kosgei
4. Mead
5. Puskedra
Mead is good but not that good.
(Women)
1. Colorado
2. Washington
3. Florida / Villanova
1. Barringer
2. Kuijken
3. Schaaf
4. Bizzarri
5. Duwell
Pwn Noobs All Day wrote:
Mead is good but not that good.
That is probably true. However, Head has not really been pushed, in that I think that at PreNats he just ran to get a good team score and he did not back off training much if that was his goal (20 seconds difference would only change his points be a few and would be unlikely to affect Minnesota's placing, where as the changing the #4 and 5 guys by 20 seconds makes a big difference.
At Big Tens he ran controlled for a while, then pushed to get a lead and then cruised in, maintaining well over the hard finishing mile. At Regionals is was a group until 3K, then he was with Guor Marial SR Iowa State through at least 7k and then had a 13 second gap by 8K (which is a big gap to forge in less than 1K doubled by 9K, then the rest of the pack closed up on 2nd and Mead maintained his advantage (except he gained another 8 on Marial).
I somewhat forgot about them. Looking back on that post, I guess I'd either put them ahead of New Mexico for the 10th spot or a darkhorse. They really haven't impressed me that much this year. They had a pretty decent recruiting class and have some guys on the team that have put up some big results on the track in the past, but they haven't done much on the cross scene. I bet they'll be top 10 tho
I somewhat forgot about them. Looking back on that post, I guess I'd either put them ahead of New Mexico for the 10th spot or a darkhorse. They really haven't impressed me that much this year. They had a pretty decent recruiting class and have some guys on the team that have put up some big results on the track in the past, but they haven't done much on the cross scene. I bet they'll be top 10 tho
Sam Chelanga will win easily his regional time was over one minute faster than derrick's -win by 20 seconds for chelanga
Stanford will take this one, I'm really surprised by the change in perception of OSU simply after they pack ran their way to nationals claiming places 8-13 or whatever.
1.Stanford
2.OSU
3.Oregon
4.Alabama
5.Colorado
6.Portland
7.BYU
8.Northern Arizona
9.William and Mary
10.Wisconsin
Individuals:
1.Chelanga
2.Derrick
3.McNeil
4.Fernandez
5.Heath
6.Puskedra
7.Vail
8.Bethke
9.Mead
10.Kosgei
1.STANFORD
2.OKLAHOMA STATE
3.WILLIAM AND MARY
THAT'S THE WAY THE COOKIE CRUMBLES
Jordan Kyle for top 10 if it's less than 40 degrees. If it's 15 and muddy/icy/snowy he's top 5.
Miller.
Shamwow wrote:
Why is there no love for Portland or William and Mary.
Portland wasn't even running two of their top 7 at regionals and they still beat Oregon. Also Kipchumba was their fourth man, he'll most likely be their first at Nationals.
I think Portland will place very well at nationals, but I don't think the fact that they sat out two of their top 7 is support for them doing better. Portland is four very solid runners and a serviceable fifth man. Do you think Freker and Cosby will be marked improvements over what Geiger did at regionals? You would expect Kipchumba to run better, but that kind of analysis is also dicey to get involved with. Everyone always wants to look at results and say "Well our usual 3rd guy was our 7th guy today, and if he runs like he could have we would have been 2nd instead of 5th." That's fine and dandy but it also assumes that every other team ran to its full potential, which is rarely the case. Kipchumba might run much better at nationals and Betterbed might run worse than he did at regionals. Rarely does any team fire at 100%, 1-7.
1.Stanford
2.OSU
3.Colorado
4.Alabama
5.Oregon
6.Portland
7.BYU
8.Northern Arizona
9.William and Mary
10.Wisconsin
Individuals:
1.Fernandez
2.Derrick
3.Chelanga
4.Heath
5.Puskedra
6.Vail
7.McNeil
8.Bethke
9.Kosgei
10.Ulrey
The shocker.
"Jordan Kyle for top 10 if it's less than 40 degrees. If it's 15 and muddy/icy/snowy he's top 5."
Miller."
-Unfortunately for Jordan & Colorado, it looks like excellent weather for the race
1.Standford
2.OSU
3.Oregon
4.BYU
5.Alabama
6.Portland
7.Colorado
8.Syracuse
9.NAU
10.W&M
Team:
Stanford
OSU
Oregon
BYU
Wisconsin
W&M
Colorado
Alabama
Portland
NAU
Individual:
Chelanga
Derrick
Kosgei
Heath
Felix K.
McNeil
Mead
Fernandez
Peacock
Vail
Darkhorses: Justin M-B, B Bethke, Kipchumba.... and Wiscos rookie Mo. Ahmed