Short course
Short course
i've run there many times. it's flat and fast. but keep telling yourself it's not for the sake of you or your friends' pr's.
i guess when miaa championships roll around we ought to expect to see the best race ever? if you only add 20 seconds then the miaa will have more guys under 25:00 than ever before...by far.
Add a minute. Get a clue.
gps garbage wrote:
heres results from last week's mule run. It was 4 Miles.
Many of the same teams.
With this sort of Improvement I can't wait to see what they run next week
http://ucmo.edu/athletics/xc/0910news_results/2009_mule_result_men.htm
You obviously haven't seen Central Missouri's Course....
While I agree it was short this week, you can not compare it with a hilly, 4 mile course that most teams ran the first 3.5 as a team.
Overall the course is fairly flat. Yes you have a lot of small hills but nothing to really slow you down much nor wear you down. It is almost as fast as a track due to the fact that the grass is cut short and the ground is normally pretty hard. I would say that a minute is a bit much to add looking at a lot of the guys and their times. I would say that 40 seconds is about accurate. Definitely more than 20 though.
jykfj, wrote:
gps garbage wrote:heres results from last week's mule run. It was 4 Miles.
Many of the same teams.
With this sort of Improvement I can't wait to see what they run next week
http://ucmo.edu/athletics/xc/0910news_results/2009_mule_result_men.htmYou obviously haven't seen Central Missouri's Course....
While I agree it was short this week, you can not compare it with a hilly, 4 mile course that most teams ran the first 3.5 as a team.
Wait I thought Missouri Southern was hilly? (rolls eyes).
Total climb: 120 feet / 37 m
Total elevation change: 247 feet / 75 m
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I never said MSSUs course was at all hilly. It is not. Central Missouri's on the other hand, is hilly. No doubt.
Was it a certified course?
wow... you guys are acting ridiculous over this course.
i guess places like mt. sac and mcalpine are shorter too now that i think about it.
i just don't understand the hoopla over the course being a minute fast. the course is barely short, add a few sec's on. let the kids have their PR's.
Wow, just WOW. All this over an xc course? Someone bothered looking up PRs for xc? You people parody yourselves!
First of all, times in XC really don't hold any water. It's all about place. If I ask you what your PR is, it better have been set on a track or else it's not comparable!
I ran the meet yesterday, and I was STOAKED with my PR....NOT! Who cares that I ran 64 seconds faster than my previous best?!? The course IS flat.....I'm from Texas and any little incline I call a hill....plain and simple, this course is just as flat as the flattest in Texas. So stop crying about the slight incline at the beginning that we had to run twice.
From what I was able to gather, the course was a solid 40-50 seconds short. The first 4 miles seemed to be marked consistently and accurately, but unless the top guys truly were running the last mile in 4 flat then it's short. I ran the last mile in 4:27....considering I was right around 5:12 pace, that's a short last mile.
Otherwise a great meet, well organized and fun to run.
it is the same course it always has been. go look at the razorbacks website, and check out the archive of results from the meet for the last 9-10 years. there are always TONS of people running very, very fast...nothing new here. as the last poster pointed out, cross times useless....except when compared to the same course.
I would say look at track times before you look at cross times, because cross times are well, just that.
I would say it was a little short, but not by a minute. I didn't run there, and I know the course is notoriously quick.
But some of those guys certainly are capable of running that fast.
Lane Boyer is a 29:05 10k guy, the harding guy has a really fast 5000 pr (a good deal under 14:00 if I'm not mistaken).
I don't know, whatever
more like 350m short! Whoever wheeled it needs to get a new wheel. It's short, but who cares. XC has a starting line and finishline and that is all that counts.
Cone on guys just drop this. Course was same as last year except this year it didn't finish on a track.def not 350m short either, most it could be is 80 meters because the finish last year was you turned left and ran on the track, this year you turned right and ran on grass to the finish line. This topic is so last week
Although it's an 'OPEN' meet for unattached runners, Tom Rutledge (Mo Southern XC Coach) won't let clubs score in the Southern Stampede.
However, courtesy of Eric Hunt:
"The Kansas City Smoke had a great day this weekend at the MO Southern Stampede. The field was larger and deeper than it has been in years. Paul Hefferon lead the group with a 6th Place finish (23:50). Matt Dunlavy led a tight pack of Smoke athletes with his 26th place finish (24:50), he was followed closely by Joffroi Holcombe in 35th place (25:01), Aaron Yoder in 41st place (25:10), Aaron Davidson in 44th place (25:14), Rikki Hacker (approx 25:20, not on results), Aaron Hohn in 161st (26:45), and Ron Kochanowicz in 279th (29:02). While the Smoke was not on the official team score sheet, if the unattached athletes were added back in we would have finished 2nd behind the University of Arkansas! A great opener to the XC Season!"