The 1500 was a blip. A mistake in tactics. He will learn and comeback even stronger. He’s an absolute monster. He will go down as one of the greats b4 he retires. And he has a way to go yet. He will break the 1500 metre world record at some stage and pick up Olympic Gold(s) and World Gold(s) at 1500. He will also continue to dominate the 5000. Maybe even trying for the mile record and upping his distance to 10000m when the time is right.
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I don’t think it’s very superficially, I’m pretty obsessed with psychology especially in the area of ASPD/NPD/BPD, and I’m also pretty obsessed with track and field meaning I watch just about any interview with Jakob that I can find.. and the outward traits/behaviors he displays make it seem pretty obvious to me. Always an excuse as to why he didn’t win, usually in a way that puts those that beat him down. He tends to speak poorly of those that do beat him or discredit their performances.
Insinuating i’m a malignant narcissist (which as you know includes psychopathy and sadism along with the general narcissistic traits) for coming up with a fairly reasonable explanation as to why losing a race potentially effects Jakob as much as it does is some pretty strong “pot calling the kettle black” behavior using your own reasoning though.
I never even called Jakob a malignant narcissist, so I don’t really understand why you are using traits of malign narcissism to discredit my post.
I’m not insinuating that you are a malign narcissist or psychopath or something like that. Not at all -if I did that I would be the same that I claim you are : superficial. And I’m not even claiming that you are superficial as a person -the vibes that I got were that you were superficial in that actual post.
I’m pretty sure Jakob isn’t (malign) narcissistic at all. -We are all narcissistic to some degree, and should also be so to have a sound self and ego and connection with life. And Jakob’s ego seems very well balanced and sound, and not inflated at all, IMO. -I think he has acted extremely intelligent and mature in the quarrel with Kerr, and also with Nordås if the information we have is representative.
You are not the only one that think Jakob is narcissistic. -A lot of posters here think being a celebrity, having high ambitions, outspokenness about dreams / goals and standing one’s ground / being in a conflict are the same as (at least a little) narcissism, but it isn’t. Malign narcissism (and that’s what we are talking about here of course, because all narcissism that affects other people negatively is malign, and you stressed how you feel he disrespects others) is sometimes relevant and important to warn the public about, especially when people with power and influence got this disorder. But then one must know for sure how to judge and analyse!
Your problem here, IMO, is that you are obviously very wrong. Why? -Well, firstly you may or may not have proper insight in NPD and psychology in general. Hard for me to know, but even if you have insight the whole field of personality disorder are highly debated, so you might view this in a way that I disagree in, professionally.
But here comes what I am certain of: Your narrative about Jakob’s behaviour and mind set is very wrong and unfair. -He doesn’t disrespect other athletes, and he doesn’t talk narcissistic or show inflated and sickly covered uncertainty. An example here is his instagram post after losing in the OG 1500m. And another is the way he has quarrelled with Kerr: The latter started the dispute by calling Jakob “insecure” after his waving to the crowd in WC 2023 semis. I doubt Jakob knew this when he called Kerr “Just the next guy” when he was asked if he thought on getting even in a later race, because the saying wasn’t directed to Kerr as a person (he could have said this to every athlete). Jakob’s point clearly is that he is concerned about becoming the best version of himself, and not about his competitors. Clearly no disrespect here. And Jakob later explained explicitly that the saying meant “the next in line”, and not “a nobody” -something all context showed that he didn’t mean.
Kerr got hurt, because he meant he was the best in the world. And that says a lot. And he immediately got personal by characterising Jakob’s ego, and ended up with this saying: “I don’t like him” whereas Jakob has been very reluctant and slow to criticise Kerr’s personality. And this doesn’t fit NPD. Neither that Jakob is very self critical, which he clearly is. And you are very wrong when you claim that he always presents excuses when he loses -he presents explanations when it’s natural. But most of his losses he reacts to like most athletes -very good and balanced and without much fuss.
Lastly: I don’t think you know Jakob well enough to characterise him. -He is not the one dimensional fanatic (when it comes to running and winning) that you seem to think. In a pod cast (early 2021 I think) he said that he planned to retire early if he won a global championship or two, because he wouldn’t end up like his brothers -all their suffering from multiple injuries- if he kept it going to near 30 years old. And because there are other things in life than running - he said. Well, he was talked away from this mind set by people who stressed how much his running means to others. But not very narcissistic this, if you ask me.
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