DK99 wrote:
If, in the next 6 months she has not been suspended by anti-doping we know it's a wild west and anyone can get away with anything, our faith in the sport should be gone.
We already know this. Where have you been in the last ten years?
DK99 wrote:
If, in the next 6 months she has not been suspended by anti-doping we know it's a wild west and anyone can get away with anything, our faith in the sport should be gone.
We already know this. Where have you been in the last ten years?
Can we all just see the truth after decades of history repeating itself over and over again. If you are at the Olympics and performing at this level I would bet any athlete is using peds. Thank God that the athletes ahead of her are on bread and water and just talented.
So all of the athletes of the following coaches, who were associated with Alberto Salazar, are also doping, right:
- Ritzenhein (this can't be legal)
- Pete Julian (was there first hand, so to speak)
- Jerry Schumacher (he did have his own doped athlete)
Her progression seems kind of normal to me. She had a big jump from 15:45 to 14:45 between age 20 and 21 and it's been steady since then. 7th at the last Olympics, now 4th in 14:31 at age 24. It's not extraordinary in any way, it's not like she's running in the low 14s, she just happens to get the best out of herself when it matters most rather than in time trials.
Cole hocker has entered the arena for the most obvious doper.
huwang wrote:
Cole hocker has entered the arena for the most obvious doper.
I doubt it, but given letshate have called out everyother PB this week as doping, it's not surprising to see someone post it
DK99 wrote:
Nadia Batocletti is the most obvious doper I've witnessed in my time watching athletics. From kicking multiple seconds faster In the last lap to win the 5/10k at Europeans to beating Kenyans and Ethiopians in the OLYMPICS.
If, in the next 6 months she has not been suspended by anti-doping we know it's a wild west and anyone can get away with anything, our faith in the sport should be gone.
You post anonymously and haven't had the balls to come back with one reply.... yankee
Doper. Deal with it.
High hopes wrote:
Her progression seems kind of normal to me. She had a big jump from 15:45 to 14:45 between age 20 and 21 and it's been steady since then. 7th at the last Olympics, now 4th in 14:31 at age 24. It's not extraordinary in any way, it's not like she's running in the low 14s, she just happens to get the best out of herself when it matters most rather than in time trials.
Indeed, plus didn't she have an U20 3k/XC profile that exceeded the 15.45 5000 anyway? I get the Italian doping era of the 1980s (so almost 20 years before she was born) and that her dad was part of that mindset. She looks perfectly put together for distance running and has great genes and odd as it may sound I'd be surprised but not blown away if she was caught for doping. I think part of the LRC mindset, for some, is that if you blow out in an OG final you are a useless choker, whereas if you get inspired by the uniqueness of the situation to make a great but not mind boggling breakthrough then you are a doper.
DK99 wrote:
Nadia Batocletti is the most obvious doper I've witnessed in my time watching athletics. From kicking multiple seconds faster In the last lap to win the 5/10k at Europeans to beating Kenyans and Ethiopians in the OLYMPICS.
If, in the next 6 months she has not been suspended by anti-doping we know it's a wild west and anyone can get away with anything, our faith in the sport should be gone.
Opinions all over the place. At some point with more sophisticated analysis, retests will show doping with elimination from results, reallocation of medals, etc. Sound familiar? Of course it does! Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.
My impression is that she targets certain events and dopes to prepare herself.
I mean, she ran 14:46 three years ago in the Tokyo Olympics to get 7th, so I don't think this performance puts her in the "most obvious doper" conversation.
Except look what she ran before surging for the Olympics.
Yeah, in 2019 Cole Hocker was a 4:07 miler, when people stop training like teenagers and start training like pros, they can get a lot faster. Batocletti is 24 now, so you're talking about her performances as a teen.
Sure.
Mondo competes for Sweden instead of USA. Brilliant move or cheap copout!
Kerr only lost to Hocker because Jakob cut Kerr off in the final 100m...
FAITH KIPYEGON has been DQd from 5000 - What a joke. Update: She's been reinstated
JAKOB INTERVIEW : He said he felt so good that he misjudged his own opening