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  • blazerbutton

    Anonymous Poster

    3 hours ago 08/05/2024 6:21pm EDT
    re: CalicoCat

    CalicoCat wrote:

    Feel like my dog just got shot

    This one really hurts. Felt sick to my stomach for him. He can do so much better and it's such a long buildup to the Olympics and it's over just like that.

    Blaming it on Ritz. He was traveling too much for someone with bronchitis. He got sick or more sick in Oslo traveling there with Ollie before his steeple in Stockholm. He had to get the steeple in for practice but he was also at Pre. They were all traveling too much, I think, just before the Olympics.

  • blazerbutton

    Anonymous Poster

    3 hours ago 08/05/2024 6:23pm EDT
    re: blazerbutton

    ^^I may be getting places mixed up. Paris, not Stockholm. And maybe Stockholm, not Oslo. But point remains.

  • Cackers

    Anonymous Poster

    3 hours ago 08/05/2024 6:29pm EDT
    re: blazerbutton

    Ritz=Hudson. Most athletes make nice jumps after Ritz coaching menu for 1-2 years. Then he has no idea what the hell to do with them, because he already threw in the kitchen sink. Can’t just do same workouts at a faster pace. If you’re gonna increase intensity and maintain volume you’ll break or get stale.

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    crisscrosscountry

    Member since 08/03/2017.

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    3 hours ago 08/05/2024 6:44pm EDT
    re: Cackers

    Cackers wrote:

    Ritz=Hudson. Most athletes make nice jumps after Ritz coaching menu for 1-2 years. Then he has no idea what the hell to do with them, because he already threw in the kitchen sink. Can’t just do same workouts at a faster pace. If you’re gonna increase intensity and maintain volume you’ll break or get stale.

    I can understand people questioning Ritz but I think it is important to note that he's had success with most of these guys for more than 1-2 years. Geordie and Olli were original OAC members and they've both improved significantly since college under Ritz. What was weird about this year was Olli seemed to be coming back nicely and Geordie was having a career year. I think that's what feels so disappointing. I actually think Ritz has handled these guys really well so far but it will be interesting to see how he re-tools training after this year. Geordie has been doing a lot more mileage this year and maybe that just left him a little spread thin with all the travel and what should've been a week out with a cough turned into this lingering nasty bronchitis. Same with Olli and his comeback but that also might've been affected by him needing to be in racing shape way earlier to run the Aussie trials, which seemed to really mess with the whole team. I still rate Ritz as a coach but I'm definitely paying attention to how he handles a rough year for pretty much all his athletes.

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    jacksprat

    Member since 07/30/2021.

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    3 hours ago 08/05/2024 6:58pm EDT
    re: crisscrosscountry

    I believe Beamish did the best he could with the equipment he had on the day. And took it on the chin. I hope he'd back and healthy soon.

  • Maybe it's the shoes

    Anonymous Poster

    3 hours ago 08/05/2024 7:04pm EDT
    re: crisscrosscountry

    crisscrosscountry wrote:

    Cackers wrote:

    Ritz=Hudson. Most athletes make nice jumps after Ritz coaching menu for 1-2 years. Then he has no idea what the hell to do with them, because he already threw in the kitchen sink. Can’t just do same workouts at a faster pace. If you’re gonna increase intensity and maintain volume you’ll break or get stale.

    I can understand people questioning Ritz but I think it is important to note that he's had success with most of these guys for more than 1-2 years. Geordie and Olli were original OAC members and they've both improved significantly since college under Ritz. What was weird about this year was Olli seemed to be coming back nicely and Geordie was having a career year. I think that's what feels so disappointing. I actually think Ritz has handled these guys really well so far but it will be interesting to see how he re-tools training after this year. Geordie has been doing a lot more mileage this year and maybe that just left him a little spread thin with all the travel and what should've been a week out with a cough turned into this lingering nasty bronchitis. Same with Olli and his comeback but that also might've been affected by him needing to be in racing shape way earlier to run the Aussie trials, which seemed to really mess with the whole team. I still rate Ritz as a coach but I'm definitely paying attention to how he handles a rough year for pretty much all his athletes.

    They hired a beginner coach, and he's making rookie errors. It was a stupid appointment, and he should've had the humility to realise he wasn't ready to handle this level of talent.

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    WhiteBoyRunningInAsianHeat

    Member since 07/30/2022.

    45 posts. Last post 57 minutes ago.
    08/05/2024 9:23pm EDT
    re: henrik

    Now the last Coffee Club pod(s) make very much sense now. I got a feeling that they were very vague, avoiding any direct discussion of the races - which seemed odd. I found the Pods disappointing listens. Looking back, it's very clear why they were - and I am sure it is they who are most disappointed, knowing they got to Paris being far off the shape they wished they were in. It feels they knew exactly what was in store for them.

    Good luck to them turning it around again.

    Olympic years are tough...

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    blahblahblah3

    Member since 06/13/2024.

    310 posts. Last post 35 minutes ago.
    08/05/2024 9:41pm EDT
    re: allezvous

    A) Honestly don't see a reason as to why he wouldn't run the 1500 instead as he beat out both Hocker and Kessler who are currently bronze contenders Indoors.

    B) Unless goose proves me wrong tomorrow, Ritz completely overcooked this one. All of OAC has struggled.

  • Noah

    THOUGHTSLEADER

    Member since 06/06/2018.

    13,958 posts. Last post 11 minutes ago.
    08/05/2024 9:52pm EDT
    re: WhiteBoyRunningInAsianHeat

    WhiteBoyRunningInAsianHeat wrote:

    Now the last Coffee Club pod(s) make very much sense now. I got a feeling that they were very vague, avoiding any direct discussion of the races - which seemed odd. I found the Pods disappointing listens. Looking back, it's very clear why they were - and I am sure it is they who are most disappointed, knowing they got to Paris being far off the shape they wished they were in. It feels they knew exactly what was in store for them.

    Good luck to them turning it around again.

    Olympic years are tough...

    That being said Olli had just come off winning London? Granted it wasn't some crazy performance (with the top 3 guys falling it was a Repechage-level field and Nordas). But clearly he could've been feeling very confident about the Heats. Beamish understandably could be down. Morgan I guess I just hope he's the exception though the fact he pulled out of that race is not ideal.

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