so who's the fastest non-african born marathoner now?
Morhad Amdouni has run 2:03 and was born in France, but has North African heritage so I guess that isn't what you mean. Then it's Kengo Suzuki, 2:04.56
Doesn’t he have messages for EPO and HGH on his phone?
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Are any sub 2:05 runners clean? I will say that's when it starts to get hard to believe. Slightly sub 2:10 is very reasonable, some freaks may be able to get to 2:05.
i hadnt seen it,but i intend to watch it. Also i know the stacking is going on,because youll see crazily lean,crazily muscled, often skinny athletes these days,men and women. Even if they're not stick thin, they've got far too much muscle for their too lean frames. Youll see that miraculously muscled,miraculously lean look in athletes from many countries,not just kenya.
Name was familair, this is the same guy who blew up in the NYC Marathon in 2022 after going out at WR pace in 70 degree dew point and ended up collapsing IIRC
These people have to know that eventually they're going to get caught.
Maybe they invest their money well and live off of that?
Most countries have a lower standard of living than we do.
My brother lived in Spain and said if I had $1000 a month I'd be fine.
Kenya, Brazil, ... In a small village.
I think this is exactly the problem with doped athletes in what we used to call Third World Countries. I think we're not supposed to call them that anymore but don't know what the correct expression is. A western runner who wins maybe $150,000-$200,000 dollars and gets suspended for doping could live for a few years with his/her winnings but will soon run out of money so staying eligible for many years is important. But in those formerly Third World countries that sort of money can set you up for life so even if you're caught and suspended after your first race you're still in better financial shape than you've ever been. If I lived is some such country, was ekeing out a living as a day laborer with a wife and kid or three and thought I could take something that would position me for a huge payday I'd have a hard time resisting. And that's why I don't believe we'll ever be able to get the doping thing under control.
It was obvious at NYC, I remember the morning run after that race my friends and I all laughed about how blatantly obvious it was. Running that fast at that age on such a hard course. Maybe one day y'all will stop believing in Santa Clause and that Kipchoge is clean.
While this bust isn't that surprising, looking at do Nascimento's world athletics page, specifically the progression tab, is quite interesting.
In 2016 he would have been comparable age to a college freshman, between 2016-2020 he's running at about the level of a good D2 athlete in a number of events 1500-10,000m including steeplechase but really nothing of note. Then 2021 he drops a 2:06.11 in Valencia.
Is the general consensus that he was clean until 2020ish? Are low-level anabolic enough to take a good D2 runner/ D1 non-national meet qualifier D1 athlete and get them to a 2:06 level within one year? Or are we thinking there's definitely epo microdosing as well?
Wild to think that drugs can take someone who has been competing in national level athletics since he was 15 (2013) from a 3:48/14:17/29:32 level to 2:06 in one year.
Was he preparing for bodybuilding contest by any chance? He tested positive for drostanolone, methenolone and nandrolone, That's a lot of GEAR!
Why not have 2 whereabouts failures if you’re absolutely glowing? Hell, even take 3 and get a 2 year ban with less suspicioun than the whole kitchen sink of drugs
I believe Do Nascimento recently switched from Demadonna to Rosa, had been training in the Kaptagat group for some time, same group as Lawrence Cherono (banned) and Timothy Kiplagat (2:02) I think. Apparently he also did some training in Uganda before last year's Hamburg Marathon