Biden may be dropping out of the race...major family discussion today

i voted by mail and for biden. quit acting like we don't exist.

you lost badly by 70 electors. some of those states eg GA have since elected dems as senators, suggesting you are in denial on bigger picture shifts in the electorate.

it's not election denial to point out that IMO trump lost because biden had near-complete party backing while a roughly 5-10% "splinter" of GOP (that the party would call RINOs) think he's gross and immoral.

if the parties are relatively even on numbers and a chunk of your party finds the man incompetent and nuts, that's how you lose.

just like in 2016, hillary was never liked by the bernie wing of the party, and an unpopular person in general, who basically couldn't win a popularity contest with trunp.

If Biden is the nominee, I will vote for a 3rd party candidate, and if it’s Newsom, I’ll vote for Newsom. You would actually vote for Biden over Trump, but not for Newsom?

Never, hopefully

Biden will step down and it will be 100% Newsom to replace him. This is what all the big $ donors and people in power behind the scenes have been working toward for awhile. Ever since they could no longer effectively conceal Biden's cognitive impairment. And if you think American economy is bad now, wait til Newsome and his cronies are in office. Look no further than California. Trump is awful as a human being but the alternative (for fiscal policy) is much worse.

And to the person who said Biden is sick. Lol. No. He has dementia. If you ever work with or around people with this diagnosis, it is so obvious and has been for a long time. No one should want someone with this diagnosis running the country regardless of your political leanings. It is a huge safety concern for intelligence, among other things.

Because he's good looking and he can string two sentences together and express a coherent thought. That is something neither Biden nor Harris can do.

People like to think they vote issues, but they don't. They just look at someone they think can do the job. Biden obviously cannot, he looks questionable to finish out his term, much less 4 more years. Newsome is right out of Hollywood central casting. If he announces today, he could start picking out the furniture for the Oval Office by Aug.

Give us a Shapiro/ Whitmer ‘24 ticket and it will be time for Trump to measure his Federal cell for new Gold curtains !!

...I'm afraid the "good looking" part carries far too much weight...

No incumbent president got as many votes as Trump did.

If Biden does drop out, will that improve PVs World Athetics ranking?

"time" is not an age thing, it's whether the political environment suits newsom running now and winning. you don't drop biden to lose. you drop biden to win. i am sure some republican wants biden out and replaced by even worse some california democrat.

if they want to win it's someone more moderate and chill.

I think it's the complete opposite. The last thing the GOP wants is a younger, better looking, more articulate, polished, experienced politician facing DT.

Biden is in the early stages of dementia and fading fast. He's not going to "get better". You don't heal from senility. He's (or Jill) are not going to drop out.

Trump would beat Newsome easily. The "Joe six-pack" vote in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania would go entirely to Trump over Newsome.

Kamala Harris is dead on arrival.

No liberal Democrat woman can win the presidency because men won't vote for them. Gretchen Whitmer or Michelle Obama would lose. (Different story if a conservative Republican woman ran - easy win.)

Only a Democrat like Josh Shapiro or Dean Phillips could win. Unfortunately, Rafael Warnock could probably win too.

You might but the average midwestern is not voting Newsom. He's comes across as a slimly California used car salesman.

Newsome would be a complete joke and a record that can be torn to shreds..he may look the part, and you may loathe TRump. But this guy took a State surplus $ wise and Turned it into an almost or greater $80B hole/deficit, everyone of his metros, looks like and is a shi- hole now. That is not debatable. Even my best friend for 55 years, who is a die hard liberal and has lived in SF for 42 years says so. He lives on Oakland/SF city line. And knows both intimately and says it is horrific. Newsome's record to run on is a certain loser, and Harris will never allow it, unless they get a resignation and she gets a Surpeme Court seat and that would be almost as laughable.

Dems made the debate earlier this year because they knew Biden wouldn't do well, and now they are going to find a new candidate to replace him.

The first one to drop their candidate wins.

Neither of these two are worth a female private part full of cold water.

Wishful thinking. You're showing your bias. Accept it. Trump is your next President. It's over.

Who cares whether he is running or not? I would vote for my 96 year old grandmother with dementia than vote for Trump.