DIdn't someone here post her workout a month ago wondering why her coach would reveal such a thing on a struggling Faith?
yeah, it's just odd. going from struggling through a typical session because of injury setback and gasping at the trackside 4 weeks ago to hitting her last 4 laps in 4:21 at altitude. it's difficult to know what is real in athletics anymore.
Wtf so every training session should feel good and be amazing?
Kipyegon was Olympic champ in 2016. Are you saying that she was clean then? News to me that you think an Olympic champ could be clean these days!
Or are you saying that she was doping then, but now she's "really doping". She was already a super saiyan doper but now she's super saiyan 4?
It's not just that all athletes are doping but that all improvements are due to doping?
She won at Rio - in 4:08 - but for years her best 1500 was 3:56 and then she made a huge jump to 3:51 in 2021. Then more recently came 3:49 and 14min for the 5k. That is off the charts for a woman. She is a conspicuously faster athlete than she was a few years back and as I said she was easily beaten by Hassan in a championship final. She could well have been doping earlier in her career but doping isnt necessarily a static or consistent process - the science is always developing but athletes also have to constantly keep ahead of the testers. But for you to believe she is clean you have to believe she is better - far better - than any doped athlete in the sport and has remained impervious to the endemic and even systemic doping that occurs throughout Kenyan running.
She beat Hassan in the 3 previous global championships. If anything, Hassan's run in 2019 was an outlier. She dropped her time from 3:56 to 3:51 and has not gone under 3:53 since.
I have faith in Faith as being a clean runner. Her progression makes sense and I can’t remember ever seeing a more talented or effortless runner. The way she can change gears is incredible. With some of her cross country success, I can easily see her breaking the 10000 record someday. I know it’s easy to scream doping but sometimes people really are that talented.
Over 10 years ago I posted that Faith Kipyegon, after her 2nd World Jr X GOLD, had unseen potential in the 5000 and 10000. Even after all she accomplished in the 1500m I still think her best events are the 5000, 10000, 1500, and then the marathon. She is however running out of time as I feel she has another 2-3 years of improving in the track and maybe 4-5 for the marathon.
I think(hope) she is clean and COULD BE capable of:
I have faith in Faith as being a clean runner. Her progression makes sense and I can’t remember ever seeing a more talented or effortless runner. The way she can change gears is incredible. With some of her cross country success, I can easily see her breaking the 10000 record someday. I know it’s easy to scream doping but sometimes people really are that talented.
You still have to believe that a woman who can run 3:49 and 14:00 can do so clean. I don't. I have seen decades of running. Training and shoe technology doesn't cut it in explaining the constant improvements we are seeing. But doping does.
Faith Kipyegon delivered an awe-inspiring performance at the Kenyan Olympic Trials, decisively dominating the 5000 meters race. Known for her prowess in middle-distance running, Kipyegon showcased her versatility and endurance by setting a blistering pace from the outset, leaving her competitors trailing in her wake. Her victory not only underscores her exceptional talent and determination but also cements her status as a formidable contender for the upcoming Olympics. Kipyegon's triumph in the 5k is a testament to her relentless training and strategic racing acumen, making her a beacon of hope for Kenya's medal prospects.
I have faith in Faith as being a clean runner. Her progression makes sense and I can’t remember ever seeing a more talented or effortless runner. The way she can change gears is incredible. With some of her cross country success, I can easily see her breaking the 10000 record someday. I know it’s easy to scream doping but sometimes people really are that talented.
You still have to believe that a woman who can run 3:49 and 14:00 can do so clean. I don't. I have seen decades of running. Training and shoe technology doesn't cut it in explaining the constant improvements we are seeing. But doping does.
Okay, let me humor you then, if their improvements are because of doping what is the ceiling?
after all these are human beings No?
surely the PEDs are bound to kill one of four of them.
not to mention nearly everyone running at the moment is improving.
I think its the Bolt/Rudisha effect, where when one All time Great pulls everyone else to PBs.
at the moment on the women's side we have been abundantly lucky since the onset of Ayana, Genzebe, Kipeygon Hassan Gudaf, Gidey etc.
meanwhile as you hate, Kipyegon jut ran 3.53.99 at altitude in Nairobi
good luck to the rest of them ladies at the Olympics
Okay, let me humor you then, if their improvements are because of doping what is the ceiling?
after all these are human beings No?
surely the PEDs are bound to kill one of four of them.
not to mention nearly everyone running at the moment is improving.
I think its the Bolt/Rudisha effect, where when one All time Great pulls everyone else to PBs.
at the moment on the women's side we have been abundantly lucky since the onset of Ayana, Genzebe, Kipeygon Hassan Gudaf, Gidey etc.
meanwhile as you hate, Kipyegon jut ran 3.53.99 at altitude in Nairobi
good luck to the rest of them ladies at the Olympics
How is that 'abundantly lucky'?
There's a reason why nobody watches the sport anymore, and it's a lot to do with boring African superhuman performances, which everyone now knows the secret to (unless you're a weird deluded fanboy).
Faith Kipyegon delivered an awe-inspiring performance at the Kenyan Olympic Trials, decisively dominating the 5000 meters race. Known for her prowess in middle-distance running, Kipyegon showcased her versatility and endurance by setting a blistering pace from the outset, leaving her competitors trailing in her wake. Her victory not only underscores her exceptional talent and determination but also cements her status as a formidable contender for the upcoming Olympics. Kipyegon's triumph in the 5k is a testament to her relentless training and strategic racing acumen, making her a beacon of hope for Kenya's medal prospects.
You still have to believe that a woman who can run 3:49 and 14:00 can do so clean. I don't. I have seen decades of running. Training and shoe technology doesn't cut it in explaining the constant improvements we are seeing. But doping does.
Okay, let me humor you then, if their improvements are because of doping what is the ceiling?
after all these are human beings No?
surely the PEDs are bound to kill one of four of them.
not to mention nearly everyone running at the moment is improving.
I think its the Bolt/Rudisha effect, where when one All time Great pulls everyone else to PBs.
at the moment on the women's side we have been abundantly lucky since the onset of Ayana, Genzebe, Kipeygon Hassan Gudaf, Gidey etc.
meanwhile as you hate, Kipyegon jut ran 3.53.99 at altitude in Nairobi
good luck to the rest of them ladies at the Olympics
As the dopers show, there isn't a ceiling. Drugs taken with medical advice - they have doctors helping them out - they avoid the negative health consequences of doping. But their performances make a joke of the sport.
I won’t lie I was worried for Faith after she didn’t race at Pre, but seeing she dropped the 10K WR holder and 14:05 5K runner in Beatrice Chebet with ease is pure insanity
It’s really not crazy complicated, she got injured early May but didn’t miss much time. It did spook her a bit and instead of doing crazy travel to Pre a few weeks post-injury she stayed put. She was never going to race in China or the early DL stops. 3:53.99 is a really impressive time, but Kenyans are only slowed by 1-2s in a 1500m at altitude.
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