It's hard to be a fan when she's disrespectful to the other competitors in the race looking around and making faces like she's the only one who mattered. If she's so much better than everyone else she should have passed on the meet altogether, run a time trial by herself somewhere and post Instagram pictures of instead to get the attention she craves. The other athletes in the race also earned a spot to compete and have their own national championship moment. I won't mind if she's flash in the pan and fades into obscurity.
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garmischgirl wrote:
It's hard to be a fan when she's disrespectful to the other competitors in the race looking around and making faces like she's the only one who mattered. If she's so much better than everyone else she should have passed on the meet altogether, run a time trial by herself somewhere and post Instagram pictures of instead to get the attention she craves. The other athletes in the race also earned a spot to compete and have their own national championship moment. I won't mind if she's flash in the pan and fades into obscurity.
She's a college kid, chill
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She's a bit of an odd one.
The in race stuff was incredibly performative. She almost tripped herself up messing around and looking off the track. Then her interviews are the same, the attempts to be funny just don't work and seem so unnatural.
Hope she can kick on cause she'll be a good villain to have in the sport at least.
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Seen It Before wrote:
SteepleSquigs 2.0 - will ink a fat contract plus get side money from endorsing Whole Foods, some kombucha brand, the blue recovery juice that she mentioned last night, some additional women centric products. Will have a huge social media following.
She may win a national title or two, make some teams, but she will not be a medal threat or perennial global top 5 performer in her best event.
“will not be perennial global top 5 performer in her best event”
If true, she probably should just quit now. Why make a living winning merely 1 or 2 national titles, making a world or Olympic team and endorsing products for half the population.
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Over the next year 12:34 and 13:59 could easily be the men's and women's WRs.
+4% 13:04, 14:32.5
For men you are barely a national class runner and nowhere near world class.
Seems being a standout on the women's side might be an easier task. A world class 5000m runner on the women's side will need to be consistently under 14:20 though.
Best of luck I guess.
For what's it worth I could see the men's American record down around 12:41 in a couple years- 1% off or so.
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garmischgirl wrote:
It's hard to be a fan when she's disrespectful to the other competitors in the race looking around and making faces like she's the only one who mattered. If she's so much better than everyone else she should have passed on the meet altogether, run a time trial by herself somewhere and post Instagram pictures of instead to get the attention she craves. The other athletes in the race also earned a spot to compete and have their own national championship moment. I won't mind if she's flash in the pan and fades into obscurity.
I totally agree with this take. Her behavior at the meet was extremely cringey and annoying. People forget she is a rich kid but maybe that is coming out. Roe in contrast is a class act.
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But Tuohy fans are in a position to be offering criticism?
Tuohy isn't exactly setting the world on fire.
Not a good look when Valby has plenty of breathing room between she and Tuohy.
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Tuohy was a great teammate and a great ncaa runner that competitors respected. She was/is a role model in the sport. Cannot blame her if those same competitors do not think Valby is on the level and are put off by her attention seeking and antics.
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astro wrote:
Tuohy was a great teammate and a great ncaa runner that competitors respected. She was/is a role model in the sport. Cannot blame her if those same competitors do not think Valby is on the level and are put off by her attention seeking and antics.
Why TF can you not respect both runners? Why is always Tuohy vs Valby? Tuohy is a pro now and they aren't vying for the same spots on the same podium. I like valby more, but I wish Tuohy as much success as she can have. They are now part of a much bigger pool of runners and you can aim your vitriol more broadly.
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Tuohy's teammates said she was a bully. Did you see her behavior after the 1500 last year. Akd then she claims illness anytime a race doesn't go well. She is not the nicest person. Valby is an open book. She is not arrogant, just a bit clueless.
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garmischgirl wrote:
It's hard to be a fan when she's disrespectful to the other competitors in the race looking around and making faces like she's the only one who mattered. If she's so much better than everyone else she should have passed on the meet altogether, run a time trial by herself somewhere and post Instagram pictures of instead to get the attention she craves. The other athletes in the race also earned a spot to compete and have their own national championship moment. I won't mind if she's flash in the pan and fades into obscurity.
Such BS. Somewhere along the line, probably long ago, somebody forgot running is supposed to be “fun.”
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feel bad for saying it wrote:
Last night showed a side of her that I think makes her vulnerable at the pro level. No problem with the silliness, expressiveness and charisma. What I noticed is that she was constantly looking around and observing how people in the stands were reacting to her. Very focused on what others think of her. When she's working hard in a race she obviously doesn't have the energy to physically show this, but I think this hyper-awareness of others' perceptions of her is a fatal flaw at the elite level. There will always be others better than you (at least for some periods of time) and you will experience set backs. If you're constantly thinking about how that seems to your fans, I think that's a recipe for stress, pressure, self doubt, etc. Flame me if you want, but I'll re-up this in a few years when she's struggling to come back from injury and/or running no better/worse than this year.
Non sense! Her success as a professional will depend on what she has in her legs.
I´m rather optimistic on her behalf.
And not quite as optimistic about Tuohy.
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feel bad for saying it wrote:
Last night showed a side of her that I think makes her vulnerable at the pro level. No problem with the silliness, expressiveness and charisma. What I noticed is that she was constantly looking around and observing how people in the stands were reacting to her. Very focused on what others think of her. When she's working hard in a race she obviously doesn't have the energy to physically show this, but I think this hyper-awareness of others' perceptions of her is a fatal flaw at the elite level. There will always be others better than you (at least for some periods of time) and you will experience set backs. If you're constantly thinking about how that seems to your fans, I think that's a recipe for stress, pressure, self doubt, etc. Flame me if you want, but I'll re-up this in a few years when she's struggling to come back from injury and/or running no better/worse than this year.
Your thread needs a hard and fast definition of "successful" so we can determine whether we agree with the definition, and so we can determine later whether she met your threshol or not.
So, what is professional success?
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I think Valby will be like many US distance runners. A household name and an endorsement queen within the United States, but not a main player on the international circuit. She will do very well financially being a good looking lady - a marketing dream. But purely on the running front - when I watch her, her form seems strained, she doesn’t “flow” if you put her in the same running frame as the likes of Letesenbet Gidey, it quickly becomes apparent that she is in a much lower class of runner. But that takes nothing away from her popularity which will only soar higher within the National environment.
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European Perspective wrote:
What I can't understand is why she is hammering herself running double weekend 10000m and 5000m college races in an Olympic year when in peak form and injury free and not on making the Olympics her focus.
Because she's unconcerned about Olympic standards and rankings
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Parker is a big fish in a small NCAA pond . Her times are nowhere near competitive at the best in the world level. It will be interesting to see how much she improves against real competition but I don’t think she’ll win any gold medals.
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She legitimately has the worst kick I've ever seen.
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5k and 10k women's are a joke. Best women are over 2 seconds a lap quicker than people outside top 10 like Battocletti. Valby is over 3 seconds a lap off WR. How do you hope to bridge that gap?
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garmischgirl wrote:
It's hard to be a fan when she's disrespectful to the other competitors in the race looking around and making faces like she's the only one who mattered. If she's so much better than everyone else she should have passed on the meet altogether, run a time trial by herself somewhere and post Instagram pictures of instead to get the attention she craves. The other athletes in the race also earned a spot to compete and have their own national championship moment. I won't mind if she's flash in the pan and fades into obscurity.
Now now. Stop showing your bitter jealous claws. Who hurt you little girl. Did you get lapped by Valby? 😂
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no kick wrote:
She legitimately has the worst kick I've ever seen.
Kick? She doesn’t need to kick with no one in front of her.
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