The One who Tracks04/25/2024 8:21pm EDT2 months ago
Wanted to make a thread that's tracked all the A standards reached in the qualifying time periods. I got all the results from the world athletics site and this is accurate as of 20:00 EST. But I thought it might be helpful to...
You guys given any more thought to your policy on "misgendering"?
When I post about XY DSD athletes like Semenya and Mboma and trans-indentified male athletes in women's and girls sports, I have to waste time and energy figuring out how to make my point without running afoul of the rules and still not calling males "she/her."
I'm not asking for the right to be rude and disrespectful of people. It's just that it's hard to stick up for girls' and women's hard-won rights whilst having to use language that plays into and perpetuates the pretense that all the males who want into female sports and spaces are women/girls themselves and thus must be referred to as she/her.
Some people I respect like JK Rowling will "misgender" people so perhaps we should rethink how we think about this.
I think informally he had said try and not to misgender people but the only thing I see in our rules is this:
Types of posts that may be removed: Posts that threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, or disability.
For example I'm fine with someone calling Lia Thomas a biological male. That's what she is. You can call her a male as well. Some would get offended at that and says she is a female. Which she isn't. So then some take it further and say why can't I say she's a man. Or call her "he". Words need to have meaning and they are changing for perhaps ideological reasons.
I think we'll just handle this on a case by base basis but remind people to try and be respectful but I'm not sure there is much of a compromise here.
Why do you allow so many political threads? So many trying to push something onto someone else from both sides. Just delete all that crap already it's ruining the board. Most threads are also ruined by people that have to jump in with some political answer for everything. Immediately turns me off a thread and I go elsewhere.
Why was my post today on the mass hospital graves in Gaza deleted?
Why (strangely) are all Brexit posts deleted?
Can we stop the daily trans-hate thread?
1) We can't have too many Gaza threads. It also doesn't help that there has been a sort of crazy guy for years who keeps starting threads about Semitic people, Zionists, etc. So consider he starts often a few threads about that a day, now with a conflict in this area and people wanting to discuss it some threads that should be left up aren't.
2) We don't leave every running thread up. Since Brexit isn't that timely right now I can see a mod deleting it if there isn't much traction.
3) I'm fine with people discussing the WV middle school issue. They are discussing something that is being covered nationally and is national news.
Why do you allow so many political threads? So many trying to push something onto someone else from both sides. Just delete all that crap already it's ruining the board. Most threads are also ruined by people that have to jump in with some political answer for everything. Immediately turns me off a thread and I go elsewhere.
You do delete a lot of non-running threads. You can see running only threads here if you want:
3) I'm fine with people discussing the WV middle school issue. They are discussing something that is being covered nationally and is national news.
Yeah, but it's also a middle school kid who obviously has some other issues and it is being reported nationally because activist parents have targeted this poor kid.
There is literally 0 risk in letting a kid compete in a category they feel comfortable. It's not like hockey of even soccer or basketball where kids may be running into each other, this is a 10-14 year old kid trying to make it through middle school.
If you want to talk about Lia Thomas or whatever, she's an adult fine, but you're enabling people that are targeting a child that is hurting noone.
A thread about Kristi Noem blowing away her puppy got deleted. Beyond her being a somewhat presumptive VP pick for Trump, it raised what should have been an interesting discussion about the divide between how people in rural communities and urban communities see pets. I know people in rural communities who keep dogs for hunting or herding. It is not at all out of the ordinary for the owners to euthanize the dogs if they get too old, are hurt or just can't do their job. But the Noem thread got deleted obviously because it was negative for Republicans. There have been other examples, but I cannot recall the last one. At the same time, plenty of threads bashing Dems stay up, like a very dumb thread today comparing Hilary Clinton's mislabeling funds that were used to pay for the Steele Dossier to Trump's using campaign funds to pay off a playboy model and porn star.
If there are going to be political threads, then moderators should not be picking what stays up based on their particular political slant, which around here is usually to the right.
Why do you allow so many political threads? So many trying to push something onto someone else from both sides. Just delete all that crap already it's ruining the board. Most threads are also ruined by people that have to jump in with some political answer for everything. Immediately turns me off a thread and I go elsewhere.
You do delete a lot of non-running threads. You can see running only threads here if you want:
We ban people for going off topic if they do it intentionally but the ban isn't permanent.
Why don't you cap the number of posts a certain poster can make each day? You know who I'm talking about. He derails every single doping thread with his trolling.
We appreciate your efforts. It is not easy to moderate a widely-visited site like this where anyone can start a thread and comment. You will always have whiners and complainers. They are almost always people who would never create and run something like this.
Most of us respect the athletes and are generally supportive of their careers. Even those of us who competed at lower levels know how hard it is.
On the political side, it is pretty clear that all the mods are on the left. They leave up personal attacks and threats of violence from their side, but are often quick to take down politely-stated factual comments that make Biden and the Dems look bad.
Two minor suggestions:
1). Non-registered users who randomly start threads saying this place is "toxic" should get the immediate ban hammer.
2). It might be worth considering a 10 comment a day upper limit. Or 12, or 15, or a number you see fit. That would be more than enough for an active daily user, but could nip at a few of the extreme over-posters who clog up threads.
You guys given any more thought to your policy on "misgendering"?
When I post about XY DSD athletes like Semenya and Mboma and trans-indentified male athletes in women's and girls sports, I have to waste time and energy figuring out how to make my point without running afoul of the rules and still not calling males "she/her."
I'm not asking for the right to be rude and disrespectful of people. It's just that it's hard to stick up for girls' and women's hard-won rights whilst having to use language that plays into and perpetuates the pretense that all the males who want into female sports and spaces are women/girls themselves and thus must be referred to as she/her.
Some people I respect like JK Rowling will "misgender" people so perhaps we should rethink how we think about this.
I think informally he had said try and not to misgender people but the only thing I see in our rules is this:
Types of posts that may be removed: Posts that threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, or disability.
For example I'm fine with someone calling Lia Thomas a biological male. That's what she is. You can call her a male as well. Some would get offended at that and says she is a female. Which she isn't. So then some take it further and say why can't I say she's a man. Or call her "he". Words need to have meaning and they are changing for perhaps ideological reasons.
I think we'll just handle this on a case by base basis but remind people to try and be respectful but I'm not sure there is much of a compromise here.
Can you please add "sex" to that list of yours Ive bolded? There's a lot of going after women and girls on LRC because our sex.
Sexism and and the particularly severe form of sexism against women and girls (the female kind) known as misogyny should rank right up there racism and ageism as no-nos. But there's quite a lot of both on LRC