OK well the evidence is scant but you’re a firm believer. Anyway it cannot be proven.
Evidence isn’t scant at all. Hobbs ran 3:34 at 18 with less than 2 years of serious training.
Hobbs is faster at age 20 than everyone on that list you named.
Right as I said the evidence is scant. Kessler certainly hasn’t taken a big leap from what he did as an 18 year old. Let us see if he continues to improve. He will be 21 in a few weeks.
Evidence isn’t scant at all. Hobbs ran 3:34 at 18 with less than 2 years of serious training.
Hobbs is faster at age 20 than everyone on that list you named.
Right as I said the evidence is scant. Kessler certainly hasn’t taken a big leap from what he did as an 18 year old. Let us see if he continues to improve. He will be 21 in a few weeks.
Kessler already ran 3:34 as a high schooler. I think it is perfectly reasonable he doesn't improve "big leaps" all the time from there. JI also did "only" improve 3 or 4 seconds from 18 - 23. Don't forget Kessler ran No. 2 ALL TIME for 1500 yesterday. Hard to argue against this imo.
Right as I said the evidence is scant. Kessler certainly hasn’t taken a big leap from what he did as an 18 year old. Let us see if he continues to improve. He will be 21 in a few weeks.
Kessler already ran 3:34 as a high schooler. I think it is perfectly reasonable he doesn't improve "big leaps" all the time from there. JI also did "only" improve 3 or 4 seconds from 18 - 23. Don't forget Kessler ran No. 2 ALL TIME for 1500 yesterday. Hard to argue against this imo.
I am not sure I understand your post. How am I supposed to forget that Kessler ran #2 all time for 1500m when it is a falsehood? Hicham has the two fastest performances and Lagat is the second all time fastest performer.
He looked so smooth . Teare should run the 5000 unless someone gets injured. Hocker,nuguse and Kessler are generational talents. All 3 could make olympic final . When did that last happen ?
Destroyed by 0.4". Wightman straight off a huge training block at altitude
Okay, too many are making this into something it is, or what it isn't. For the Wightman came from a big block of training? Please, this is Kessler's first effort off of his biggest training block as a "pro". I doubt they did a lot of tapering specific speed work for this knowing Ron. On the "destroy" vs not, and margin of winning? This race was never in doubt unless Hobbs fell down. Wightman great close? Who cares, the race was over by then, at one point, he had 20+ yards on him? Maybe a little less? Most are right, I am biased, at least I admit it. But if you look at the confident body language within the race itself, there is a difference, no all over the pace, no getting boxed. not afraid to move once and to the wire....all signs that he most likely, most likely, a different guy. Just my view. As far as conversions? Scotty knows what this is, or isn't it's just a reference point , as you see miles being run all over the place, and the UW mile everyone was drooling over at 3:51.73 by a guy two years older. Just a marker, in this case, the way he was running and last 400M, I think This would have been a sub 3:50.00 even slowing.
I just added “destroys Wightman” to make the thread more descriptive. Super super impressive
A. Immature.
B. Doesn’t even come close to telling the full story, so isn’t descriptive.
C. You won’t still be saying that come the important part of the year.
Saying “destroys” is taunting and it’s kicking someone when he’s down. Totally unnecessary and classless. Makes me want to see Wightman destroy Kessler once he’s back to full fitness, and I’m an American.
Somebody doesn’t know what “generational talent” means. Or has the meaning changed?
Let me explain it to you Einstein. America hasn't had 1 1500 runner with the talent of these 3 since Jim Ryan. They have the talent to achieve and push each other to levels that the world let alone america hasn't seen before . Will they ? Most likely not . That doesn't mean they don't have the talent to. Generational talent can definitely come along in the same generation . Now reply and critique my bad grammar. But I won't bother replying back to some smart-@ss that wouldn't even know a tiny bit of the history of the sport without googling it.
B. Doesn’t even come close to telling the full story, so isn’t descriptive.
C. You won’t still be saying that come the important part of the year.
Saying “destroys” is taunting and it’s kicking someone when he’s down. Totally unnecessary and classless. Makes me want to see Wightman destroy Kessler once he’s back to full fitness, and I’m an American.
Why all this Wightman sympathy
Other than me and a few others, people started trashing Kessler after he didnt go to 3:32 at 19
A track world champion deserves more respect than an overrated and overhyped kid who has never even made a U.S. team on the track.
Love, the love for Wightman, and all this respect, he will be 30 in July. He first broke 3:33.00 at 24.Hobbs is over rated and overhyped? hmmm a guy who not yet 21 in our country at 1:45.x 2:16.x 3:32.x and 7:39.
Go check Wightman's bio along the way.
It just sounds so stupid and an inability to read a form chart or data that is readily available.
Kessler had him at every interval. I think he eased up on the old warhorse!! lol.
See how stupid that sounds..only a "hero" last 200M by Wightman saved humiliation..lol
Another sounds stupid posting.
Last 400's 54.30 for Kessler from the front. 54.47 for Wightman chasing.
Kessler already ran 3:34 as a high schooler. I think it is perfectly reasonable he doesn't improve "big leaps" all the time from there. JI also did "only" improve 3 or 4 seconds from 18 - 23. Don't forget Kessler ran No. 2 ALL TIME for 1500 yesterday. Hard to argue against this imo.
I am not sure I understand your post. How am I supposed to forget that Kessler ran #2 all time for 1500m when it is a falsehood? Hicham has the two fastest performances and Lagat is the second all time fastest performer.
Let’s just hope you never get a job in talent evaluation.
In this very thread, someone said Kessler, Nuguse, and Hocker are the most talented Americans since Jim Ryun. In another thread posted yesterday, someone predicted Kessler will win the Olympic gold medal in Paris. Hard to be more overrated and overhyped than that.