Lex and Leo Young pathetic result at UW

TWTC wrote:

high school coach matters wrote:

It's clear by now that Brosnan trained them extremely hard in high school. They were closer to their ceiling coming out of high school than most other current college freshmen.

They are not going to improve as much as others that were undertrained in high school like Cole Hocker.

Nico is a little different because he was Brosnan's first athlete so he was more patient.

Brosnan is a better coach than Santos. Brosnan develops athletes with speed and progression. Santos just runs miles miles miles. Look at Cole Sprout and Santos screwed him up. The Young’s need a Coach similar to Brosnan like a Mike Smith or at least someone that can coach.

TWTC wrote:

high school coach matters wrote:

It's clear by now that Brosnan trained them extremely hard in high school. They were closer to their ceiling coming out of high school than most other current college freshmen.

They are not going to improve as much as others that were undertrained in high school like Cole Hocker.

Nico is a little different because he was Brosnan's first athlete so he was more patient.

Brosnan is a better coach than Santos. Brosnan develops athletes with speed and progression. Santos just runs miles miles miles. Look at Cole Sprout and Santos screwed him up. The Young’s need a Coach similar to Brosnan like a Mike Smith or at least someone that can coach.

not brosnan wrote:

TWTC wrote:

Brosnan is a better coach than Santos. Brosnan develops athletes with speed and progression. Santos just runs miles miles miles. Look at Cole Sprout and Santos screwed him up. The Young’s need a Coach similar to Brosnan like a Mike Smith or at least someone that can coach.

You can't say Brosnan develops athletes with speed when Lex never ran an 800 in high school and Leo ran only two 800s with his PR at 1:58.18.

Somehow Ky Robinson had the best kick in the NCAA last year, he's not complaining about Santos's speed development.

If you look at all of Brosnan's athletes, the vast majority underachieve in college. To anytime with a brain, that reflects negatively on Brosnan.

2 Close 2 Call wrote:

I have spoken to both Brosnan and Smith. They are as close as you get with training. I think Brosnan likes little more raw speed, but very similar. I can see why the transition would be smooth. Also there are so many variables of why a race can go right or wrong to make a assumption about the young twins this early

Braz naan wrote:

2 Close 2 Call wrote:

I have spoken to both Brosnan and Smith. They are as close as you get with training. I think Brosnan likes little more raw speed, but very similar. I can see why the transition would be smooth. Also there are so many variables of why a race can go right or wrong to make a assumption about the young twins this early

BS. Brosnan does a lot of VO2 max stuff and Smith does a ton of a threshold work.

MS Coach wrote:

Braz naan wrote:

BS. Brosnan does a lot of VO2 max stuff and Smith does a ton of a threshold work.

Smith does a lot of VO2 max also. A lot! Brosnan also does a good amount of threshold. I’ve done the famous coaching calls with Brosnan and I agree he’s very similar to Mike Smith in training.

I wish Smith and Brosnan would do a clinic together.

same stuff different day wrote:

MS Coach wrote:

Smith does a lot of VO2 max also. A lot! Brosnan also does a good amount of threshold. I’ve done the famous coaching calls with Brosnan and I agree he’s very similar to Mike Smith in training.

I wish Smith and Brosnan would do a clinic together.

If you laid out the training plans of most top coaches (even including Brosnan despite not being a top coach), it would be hard to tell them a part. They all do mostly the same stuff with small differences and proportions. There are no magic workouts. Recruiting and culture play way bigger roles than some specific training plans.

Agree G wrote:

same stuff different day wrote:

If you laid out the training plans of most top coaches (even including Brosnan despite not being a top coach), it would be hard to tell them a part. They all do mostly the same stuff with small differences and proportions. There are no magic workouts. Recruiting and culture play way bigger roles than some specific training plans.

Brosnan is definitely one of the top coaches in the US hands down.

I also agree that the Young’s picked academics over being fast

Braz naan wrote:

Agree G wrote:

Brosnan is definitely one of the top coaches in the US hands down.

I also agree that the Young’s picked academics over being fast

He’s unemployed and not coaching. Hands down not one of the top coaches. Here we go again.

Santos does not train them to run fast wrote:

Lex is a 13:34 guy , Leo is 3:39 guy, Cole is a 7:43, 27:42 and 13:24 guy, Ky is a 7:42 and 13:06 guy.

Santos doesn’t put any speed development in their training and their Mile races from yesterday in Washington proves that point.

Agree G wrote:

same stuff different day wrote:

If you laid out the training plans of most top coaches (even including Brosnan despite not being a top coach), it would be hard to tell them a part. They all do mostly the same stuff with small differences and proportions. There are no magic workouts. Recruiting and culture play way bigger roles than some specific training plans.

Brosnan is definitely one of the top coaches in the US hands down.

I also agree that the Young’s picked academics over being fast

TWTC wrote:

high school coach matters wrote:

It's clear by now that Brosnan trained them extremely hard in high school. They were closer to their ceiling coming out of high school than most other current college freshmen.

They are not going to improve as much as others that were undertrained in high school like Cole Hocker.

Nico is a little different because he was Brosnan's first athlete so he was more patient.

Brosnan is a better coach than Santos. Brosnan develops athletes with speed and progression. Santos just runs miles miles miles. Look at Cole Sprout and Santos screwed him up. The Young’s need a Coach similar to Brosnan like a Mike Smith or at least someone that can coach.