I know what libel is. I was not very aware of this case and had not known they had suffered so much. My only point was that people say libelous stuff in tweets all the time. I am not equating what Rudy G. did to those comments that might be considered libelous.
But you did equate what Rudy G. did to libelous tweets. You got called out and now you’re backpedaling.
I should not have commented on the case before. I had no idea of the details. I was wrong.
Repeated false statements in public about two non-public individuals that damaged their reputations.
How have you lived this long and been unaware of what libel is?
I know what libel is. I was not very aware of this case and had not known they had suffered so much. My only point was that people say libelous stuff in tweets all the time. I am not equating what Rudy G. did to those comments that might be considered libelous.
Most people can do whatever they want because their statements are unlikely to cause material harm. When you are speaking on the behalf of a person running for president that will be seen by hundreds of millions so should think a bit before saying things that you know are false and are likely to endanger people’s lives..
Because November 2019-January 2020 is 3 long years ago, most of us have forgotten how utterly insane it was during this time period. It was never seen before. Donald Trump and all his sycophants were everywhere in front of every camera or microphone they could find saying the most idiotic, lying, slanderous defamatory sh!t they could think up. They did not care whatsoever who they defamed or lied about.
It is good to see some precedent set down to maybe discourage this from happening again. I am not naive enough to think it will stop the lying. But maybe it will stop the ruining of innocent individuals and companies for no reason.
I know what libel is. I was not very aware of this case and had not known they had suffered so much. My only point was that people say libelous stuff in tweets all the time. I am not equating what Rudy G. did to those comments that might be considered libelous.
But you did equate what Rudy G. did to libelous tweets. You got called out and now you’re backpedaling.
I hope all of the hard core m_ga types here will be providing a lot of financial support to Rudy. Something tells me the victims will see much less than the full amount.
No poop that they won’t get the full amount. It will be like Fred Goldman’s judgement against O.J. and they’ll be lucky to receive 1%. Giuliani will be cleaned out but he probably has some annuities that can’t be touched. O.J. receives about $20K per month that Goldman can’t get his hands on.
Rudy and the others blew the dog whistles loud and clear for the magacrazies. He/they gave names and addresses and phone numbers of innocent people doing their jobs. The magacrazies came after these people like rabid dogs with public harassment, threats, showing them guns, vandalizing their property, etc. They could no longer live a normal life and may never get that back. Even if the magacrazies are 0.01% of the 74M who voted for Trump, that is thousands of mentally unstable followers willing to destroy these people's lives.
Of course Rudy does not have the money and the amount will be reduced.
The important thing is HIS life is now ruined with no way out just like the people he knowingly slandered. That is justice.
America has many, many problems but this is one of the most maddening. What would have the lifetime earnings of these two have been? The consept of "deep pockets" doesn't even apply with Rudy having already spent his fortune.
One of many reasons the 8th amendment exists. Excessive awards like this take away trust in the system.
The jury award in a civil trial is neither bail nor an imposed fine.
I am not supporting Rudy, I am attacking the corrupt legal system in which bleeding heart jurors want to award giant lottery prizes to people with no attention to what actual damages are. And gives 33 to 50 % of that prize to lawyers. Donald moved Rudy out of his circle of trust long ago and rightfully so.
Maybe Trump should have never had a lawyer that was dumb enough to defame two people in his circle of trust in the first place. Trump surrounds himself with idiots the same way a hole surrounds itself with donut.
That makes about as much sense as the back door delivery on your birthday.
America has many, many problems but this is one of the most maddening. What would have the lifetime earnings of these two have been? The consept of "deep pockets" doesn't even apply with Rudy having already spent his fortune.
One of many reasons the 8th amendment exists. Excessive awards like this take away trust in the system.
The amounts are just numbers. I’ve read that Giuliani is already broke from attorney fees.
Can someone tell me why anyone would work for Trump?
YOu either end up dead (Cain), fired or bankrupt? Trump uses political donations for his own lawyers but is he helping people like Rudy out at all? Or is he letting them rot like he did all of people who have been in prison since Jan 6?
Giuliani has hundreds of signed affidavits from election workers across all the swing states explaining the things they witnessed. Instances that align with the absurdity of the data from that night (late night ballots drops, ballots run through multiple times, etc.). NOT ONE has been allowed in a courtroom. Why? Because the courtrooms objective isn’t to get to the truth here. They’re depending on the public being ignorant to how the law works (see many of the responses on this thread), and believing that these cases actually reviewed the evidence to a jury. That has NEVER been done. On purpose. The sole purpose of this week's trial was to determine ‘how much money’ Giuliani would have to pay the women in damages. All for show.
"The absurdity of the number ($150M) merely underscores the absurdity of the entire proceeding, where I've not been allowed to offer one single piece of evidence in defense, of which I have a lot," he said. "So I am quite confident when this case gets before a fair tribunal, it will be reversed so quickly, it'll make your head spin and the absurd number that just came in will help that, actually."
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Can someone tell me why anyone would work for Trump?
YOu either end up dead (Cain), fired or bankrupt? Trump uses political donations for his own lawyers but is he helping people like Rudy out at all? Or is he letting them rot like he did all of people who have been in prison since Jan 6?
Everyone thinks they can use the fool to make themselves rich and greed wins out. It turns out the fool is better at the con game than they are.
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