She obviously has a significant eating disorder and is binging exercise by x-training 3+ hours a day while injured....people shouldn't get stress injuries and soft tissue injuries every 2-3 months. She is going to get REDS soon and her career could be cut waaaay short if she doesn't figure it out :/
The ability to run 80-100 miles per week injury free is largely genetic
When Eminem was getting clean from his addiction in the late 2000's, he said in interviews that he would run 17 miles per day on his treadmill. That adds up to 120 miles per week. I would say being able to run 80-100 miles per week injury free is a lot more common than you would think.
Every body is different. The human body is not intended to work out a couple hours a day. Parker is going for non-impact training because her tendons, bones, ligaments, muscles can't take that pounding if she runs all her workouts. Happy she has found a way to not get injured so her talent shows.
I did read somewhere that the only way you can really build speed and endurance is by actually running. In other words, if you ride your bike 50 miles three times a week, it will increase your endurance, but you won't go faster, because you are training different muscles. That said, I guarantee that today (120323) there are lots of coaches and assistants huddled in the athletic offices trying to figure out exactly what happened and how this can be. An untrained or minimally trained athlete basically turns into the fastest gal in the NCAA in under a year. I think that at the NCAAs she won her 5000 champs in something like 15:30. So...
Yes, so common that 1 in 1000 are capable of doing it. Most people can't run 10 miles per week without getting injured. We weren't made to run that much. We have 2 legs. Even legged mammals don't run that much.
What if she's not abnormally injury prone, but is just one of the few to work around it effectively. You just don't usually hear about the "injury prone" runners because they stay injured, so our sample of successful runners is mostly those that can handle the higher mileage/intensity.
I'm not trying to imply that Valby's training is optimal (although it might be better than intuition would tell us). Instead, I'm saying that it's very possible that many otherwise talented athletes disappear into obscurity by thinking higher impact training is the only option for high level performance. Perhaps we'd see more examples like Valby if well thought out "lower mileage" programs were considered an option for elite runners.
This is the correct answer.
There's a selection bias among elite runners. The ones that become elite are the ones that don't get injured - at least not very often. Because of this, they're able to string lots of training blocks together, eventually building up to consistently higher volumes of training, which is where big improvements are made.
Most runners do get injured a lot (particularly teenage girls), but just about all of them aren't well known runners, because they're never able to string enough training together to reach a high level.
Interesting that everyone is focused on Valbys health when Tuohy has been unable to show up healthy when it really counts for almost a year now. In fact, NC States XC season seemed like they were hanging by a thread at the end and relied too much on luck and desperation to win NCAAs, given their proven innate abilities.
Interesting that everyone is focused on Valbys health when Tuohy has been unable to show up healthy when it really counts for almost a year now. In fact, NC States XC season seemed like they were hanging by a thread at the end and relied too much on luck and desperation to win NCAAs, given their proven innate abilities.
Yeah it is not just Tuohy, its much of the NC state team... Tuohy in particular has not seemed really healthy march and has had problems at major meets.
I have no idea- anyone have any theories? Why does she get injured so much more than many others? I know can be part of the sport but she seems to be more injury prone than most
are you in high school? anyway, the same reason some people are faster then others...genetics.
Every body is different. The human body is not intended to work out a couple hours a day. Parker is going for non-impact training because her tendons, bones, ligaments, muscles can't take that pounding if she runs all her workouts. Happy she has found a way to not get injured so her talent shows.
Speak for yourself. I feel best when I'm laboring the entire time the sun is up.
Anyway, congrats to Valby for figuring out how to win a power:weight ratio sport via a road less traveled.
Most runners who do non-impact aerobic cross training mess up in two areas: wrong exercise and not enough time doing it.
Personally found that walking on a steep incline in the 15-21% range at about 3.7-4.2mph is phenomenal for fitness for me and I'm also historically injury prone when running. It's a similar motion v. something like cycling or rowing which are vastly different from running and walking.
2nd major mistake: to get an equivalent training duration it takes ~2.5x what you'd be doing if running.
As an example lets say you can only handle 20mpw and want to simulate 80mpw training. You are a ~15:00 5000 runner and if actually doing 80mpw you'd avg. about 9mph. Thus we take the 60 miles not being run and divide by 9 to get ~6.7 hours of training time. Multiply that by 2.618 to get ~17.5 hours of non-impact stimulus needed to substitute the 6.7 hours not run.
If you cross train 5x a week that an avg of 3.5hrs per day. Then you do 2 strong sessions of running per week and muscularly will feel very fresh since you haven't had any pounding for a few days. The cardio system is revved up and ready to go from previous days extensive work. And suddenly your running workouts feel super short.
How many people saying cross training doesn't work have actually put in this much volume for long periods of time consistently?
I did read somewhere that the only way you can really build speed and endurance is by actually running. In other words, if you ride your bike 50 miles three times a week, it will increase your endurance, but you won't go faster, because you are training different muscles. That said, I guarantee that today (120323) there are lots of coaches and assistants huddled in the athletic offices trying to figure out exactly what happened and how this can be. An untrained or minimally trained athlete basically turns into the fastest gal in the NCAA in under a year. I think that at the NCAAs she won her 5000 champs in something like 15:30. So...
You “read somewhere?” Well she’s actually showing that it works for her. Did whatever you read mention anything about the quality of the runs and the cross training? She’s not jogging on her run days or her cross training days. As for “training different muscles,” a lot of them are pretty similar on the elliptical and arc trainer, plus it’s the recovery time when the running-specific muscles build. Breaking down the same muscles and joints everyday isn’t always the best thing.
The ability to run 80-100 miles per week injury free is largely genetic
When Eminem was getting clean from his addiction in the late 2000's, he said in interviews that he would run 17 miles per day on his treadmill. That adds up to 120 miles per week. I would say being able to run 80-100 miles per week injury free is a lot more common than you would think.
Interesting that everyone is focused on Valbys health when Tuohy has been unable to show up healthy when it really counts for almost a year now. In fact, NC States XC season seemed like they were hanging by a thread at the end and relied too much on luck and desperation to win NCAAs, given their proven innate abilities.
Yeah it is not just Tuohy, its much of the NC state team... Tuohy in particular has not seemed really healthy march and has had problems at major meets.
pointing at the cold or whatever she got at the wrong time shows desperation to predict Tuohy's demise. The outdoor season and wearing down after 2 highly successful seasons was unfortunate, but until the cold/flu showed no lingering effects. People do occasionally get sick. Sometimes you are unlucky as to when. Sometimes you are lucky. Recall she got flu and covid in late 2021 (after XC and the BU meet) and what resulted from that? 2nd and 2nd in Indoor Nationals, 1st Outdoors, 1st XC, 1st and 1st Indoor Nationals, and 3-4 records.
I hope Valby gets through this Indoor season healthy unlike the last 2.
Valby got through the past 2 seasons, XC and outdoor, healthier than anyone winning nationals both times.Tuohy didn't get through either of the last 2 seasons healthy by her own admission. This isn't controversial. She need to get checked out for some type of eating disorder or sleep disorder.
Yeah it is not just Tuohy, its much of the NC state team... Tuohy in particular has not seemed really healthy march and has had problems at major meets.
pointing at the cold or whatever she got at the wrong time shows desperation to predict Tuohy's demise. The outdoor season and wearing down after 2 highly successful seasons was unfortunate, but until the cold/flu showed no lingering effects. People do occasionally get sick. Sometimes you are unlucky as to when. Sometimes you are lucky. Recall she got flu and covid in late 2021 (after XC and the BU meet) and what resulted from that? 2nd and 2nd in Indoor Nationals, 1st Outdoors, 1st XC, 1st and 1st Indoor Nationals, and 3-4 records.
I hope Valby gets through this Indoor season healthy unlike the last 2.
I agree - sickness can happen at any time and it was just bad luck. Nothing more. So many negative nellies on here trying to distort basic facts to fit a certain narrative for whatever reason. Tuohy was totally fine at ACCs (15+ seconds ahead of nationals 3rd place finisher Markezich for example) and at Regionals. Won both races very easily. Sadly she got sick day before Nationals but still did her best to help her team.
Valby got through the past 2 seasons, XC and outdoor, healthier than anyone winning nationals both times.Tuohy didn't get through either of the last 2 seasons healthy by her own admission. This isn't controversial. She need to get checked out for some type of eating disorder or sleep disorder.
2 seasons in a row! OMG! as they say, 2 out of 3 ain't bad (which has been her history)
Valby got through the past 2 seasons, XC and outdoor, healthier than anyone winning nationals both times.Tuohy didn't get through either of the last 2 seasons healthy by her own admission. This isn't controversial. She need to get checked out for some type of eating disorder or sleep disorder.
Don’t know if this take is “controversial” or not by LR standards but it sure is b***s**t. That last sentence, I mean WTF??
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