Did you know there's a pill that supposedly over half the distance medallists used in 2023?

Dihydrogen monoxide is a technically correct, though rarely used chemical name for water. It has been employed as a hoax

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Which part do you not understand?

Correct. That's how the 800 is run. Someone calling himself 800 dude should know this.

And to you remember DMSO, the snake oil of the 70s?

No it doesn't work. It's kidology, pseudoscience.

Acidosis is a byproduct of glycogen depletion in fast twitch fibers because, there are two different sources of lactate production one from muscle glycogen which doesn't produce H+ and one from blood glucose which does produce H+. When the cell is glycogen depleted it must tely on blood glucose to refuel. Ingesting sodium bicarbonate obviously can't refuel the muscle cell with glycogen.

"Dihydrogen monoxide is the next big thing and WADA hasn't banned it...yet."

Some people actually use a sublimated version for recovery.

Hydrogen Hydroxide? Even better.

You must be a hoot at parties...

So, you manufacture a click bait article that is a nothing burger and then use the first three "free" paragraphs to hype up the article before putting up a paywall. I do not believe you pushed back on this at all. It is simply a set up to try and drum up subscriptions to your crappy insider garbage.

Baking soda, kids. It's baking soda. Save your money.

In a year or two, three or four at the most, there will be AI translation software so good that Americans can start listening to podcasts from other nations in real time and not be surprised about things bilingual listeners from others countries have known for years. ;-)

What Maurten is doing is not a secret in Scandinavia, obviously that's were they are from and that's where they started sponsoring athletes. Their first big hit outside of running was the 2018 Olympics where they afterwards were allowed to talk about how they had sponsored the very successful Biathlon Teams of both Sweden and Norway. During the World Championships this spring the Swedish team won a record number of medals total and one of the Norweigian men, Johannes Thingnes Bö, became the first man to medal in all seven events (five gold, one silver, one bronze) - scroll down to Oberhof 2023:

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The new slow release Maurten formula with added bicarbonate has been talked about here for 2-3 years at least. The only caveat I've heard about is that some athletes stomaches can't handle it (getting the runs so to say) and have to opt out, but that's not surprising, there's no one-size-fits-all in anything.

Too much sugar in gels - some athletes can't handle it. Carbon shoes - some athletes thrive in them, others couldn't handle the transition. High milage - for some athletes injuries stack up way before serious results come in.

Now you might think that I'm trying to be controversial here - but if I REALLY wanted to do that I would point out that American Kids with their on average highest sugary diet in World history probably are at a permanent disadvantage in handling the use of bicarbonaty drinks when more companies hasten to move into this new product sector just like other shoe companies did when they had to catch up with carbon shoes.

Only a data point of one, but I've tried it and have had just ridiculous kicks at the end of races.

One other thing I've noticed and it may totally be placebo effect, but it seems a lot easier to just hold a threshold pace during the middle of the race. So ultimately makes the race just more enjoyable.

My god, the idiocy here. Rojo is concerned about OAC taking this, Gault is mesmerized, and it's old effing news. Might want to combine this with an eight month old thread:

Maurten Bicarb System = Significant performance enhancer? - LetsRun.com

"Win An Olympic Medal with This One Crazy Trick!"

"The COMPLETELY LEGAL Performance Enhancer that WADA Doesn't Want You to Know About!"

"Seniors are Running Like Teenagers Thanks to This Revolutionary New Supplement!"

Thanks for participating! Good find! Shall we consider all previous topics that had a whopping six numbers of replays here as already settled from now on? ;-)

back when i was in college 20 yrs ago know, in one of my exercise phys classes there was a section on using it, russians had done research in the 60-70s, the idea was it would buffer lactic acid so you could run longer at anaerobic threshold for longer before the cells where overrun with lactic acid, and help with the pyruvate cycle.

anyone using this for the sprints would be a waste of time, but 800-marathon it was claimed to be very effective, only problem was the amounts needed would cause stomach and intestine problems, or in laymens terms severe diarrhoea. the key was to make sure you didnt have an empty stomach and only used it midway or so through hard intense anaerobic threshold training. if you werent creating high levels of lactic acid then there goes your tum tum and off to the sh*tter

i never tried it

There are lots of threads about it going back many years.

rojo is right. Train harder and smarter and stop looking for some kind of magic sauce.

I consider it journalistic malpractice to do clickbait articles on news that was old when it was reported eight months ago. People have been using bicarb for a long time.

And I won't even get into how illogical Rojo's justification for being amazed at this news was.