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  • Will coop

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    7 months ago 12/17/2023 5:23pm EST
    re: Awsi Dooger

    Quite a few contenders for the teams raced this weekend, how will this affect the teams?

    Kenya Women:

    Brigid Kosgei - 1st - 2:19:15 - Abu Dhabi marathon

    Ruth Chepngetich - 4th - 1:11:52 - Bangsaen HM (69:46 winning time)

    Sheila Chepkirui - 2nd - 1:10:03 - Bangsaen HM

    Ethiopia Women:

    Yelemzerf Yahualaw - 2nd - 1:19:26 - Kolkata 25k (1:18:47 winning time)

    Kenya Men:

    Amos Kipruto - 3rd - 1:03:52 - Bangsaen HM (63:39 winning time)

    Ethiopia Men:

    Tsegaye Getachew - 2d - 1:03:45 - Bangsaen HM

    Tadese Takele - DNF - Bangsaen HM

    Seifu Tura - DNF - Bangsaen HM

    Bangsaen was likely very hot and humid and I don't think Ethiopia will look far into the DNFs there. Kosgei in the team for Chepngetich? Maybe but not necessarily its a tough decision, Peres could even get cut??...lets see

  • social warriors

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    7 months ago 12/17/2023 5:39pm EST
    re: Will coop

    This year the main criteria will be diversity.

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    Aussiestatman

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    7 months ago 12/19/2023 9:02pm EST
    re: Will coop

    Will coop wrote:

    Quite a few contenders for the teams raced this weekend, how will this affect the teams?

    Kenya Women:

    Brigid Kosgei - 1st - 2:19:15 - Abu Dhabi marathon

    Ruth Chepngetich - 4th - 1:11:52 - Bangsaen HM (69:46 winning time)

    Sheila Chepkirui - 2nd - 1:10:03 - Bangsaen HM

    Ethiopia Women:

    Yelemzerf Yahualaw - 2nd - 1:19:26 - Kolkata 25k (1:18:47 winning time)

    Kenya Men:

    Amos Kipruto - 3rd - 1:03:52 - Bangsaen HM (63:39 winning time)

    Ethiopia Men:

    Tsegaye Getachew - 2d - 1:03:45 - Bangsaen HM

    Tadese Takele - DNF - Bangsaen HM

    Seifu Tura - DNF - Bangsaen HM

    Bangsaen was likely very hot and humid and I don't think Ethiopia will look far into the DNFs there. Kosgei in the team for Chepngetich? Maybe but not necessarily its a tough decision, Peres could even get cut??...lets see

    Was tadese takele a dnf or dns? not recorded in his iaaf profile

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    douglas burke

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    7 months ago 12/19/2023 11:49pm EST
    re: Aussiestatman

    Part of the decision may be to have runners who run well in conditions similar to what The Olympic Marathon in Paris will likely be, example if it is expected to be hot pick runners who run well in the heat.

  • Will coop

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    7 months ago 12/20/2023 4:07pm EST
    re: Aussiestatman

    Aussiestatman wrote:

    Will coop wrote:

    Quite a few contenders for the teams raced this weekend, how will this affect the teams?

    Kenya Women:

    Brigid Kosgei - 1st - 2:19:15 - Abu Dhabi marathon

    Ruth Chepngetich - 4th - 1:11:52 - Bangsaen HM (69:46 winning time)

    Sheila Chepkirui - 2nd - 1:10:03 - Bangsaen HM

    Ethiopia Women:

    Yelemzerf Yahualaw - 2nd - 1:19:26 - Kolkata 25k (1:18:47 winning time)

    Kenya Men:

    Amos Kipruto - 3rd - 1:03:52 - Bangsaen HM (63:39 winning time)

    Ethiopia Men:

    Tsegaye Getachew - 2d - 1:03:45 - Bangsaen HM

    Tadese Takele - DNF - Bangsaen HM

    Seifu Tura - DNF - Bangsaen HM

    Bangsaen was likely very hot and humid and I don't think Ethiopia will look far into the DNFs there. Kosgei in the team for Chepngetich? Maybe but not necessarily its a tough decision, Peres could even get cut??...lets see

    Was tadese takele a dnf or dns? not recorded in his iaaf profile

    I think I saw him so DNF, race video below:

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  • Will coop

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    7 months ago 12/20/2023 4:10pm EST
    re: Will coop

    Kipchoge to Tokyo (Japan - land of the rising sun)?

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    Aussiestatman

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    6 months ago 01/06/2024 11:36pm EST
    re: THOUGHTSLEADER

    THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

    So now what does Kenya do?

    Chebet - no Fall Marathon but 2:03:0x PB and 3 hilly major wins

    Mutiso - 2:03:11 Valencia, Prague win

    Benson - I think no

    Kamworor - I think no

    Lemma and Tola lock in Ethiopian spots. Degefa or Gebreslase for last womens spot. I wonder if Degefa might prefer to make more money on the circuit.

    In Dubai, Aga misses her chance today and young Ketema on debut is one for the future

  • toughtask

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    6 months ago 01/06/2024 11:57pm EST
    re: Will coop

    I said earlier that I think Alemu and Gebreslase are the best choices to for the final slot on the Ethiopian team. We'll see soon who might be the better choice of the 2 as they are facing off today in Xiamen

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    6 months ago 01/06/2024 11:59pm EST
    re: toughtask

    toughtask wrote:

    I said earlier that I think Alemu and Gebreslase are the best choices to for the final slot on the Ethiopian team. We'll see soon who might be the better choice of the 2 as they are facing off today in Xiamen

    I don’t think Gebreslase will race. But I think she will run a major Spring race which will decide things.

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    Aussiestatman

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    6 months ago 01/10/2024 3:18am EST
    re: douglas burke

    And in news from other countries: steepler Ruth jebet is listed 4th for Bahrain in marathon ‘road to Paris’. If they choose her for both, could Ruth double?

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    Jahert43

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    6 months ago 01/10/2024 6:23am EST
    re: Will coop

    Selecting the best marathon teams for Kenya and Ethiopia without trial races presents a challenge also check players income and networth like Gallagher Fenwick.

    Considering recent performances and potential, Eliud Kipchoge and Brigid Kosgei for Kenya, and Kenenisa Bekele and Letesenbet Gidey for Ethiopia would be strong choices.

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    Jahert43

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    6 months ago 01/10/2024 7:10am EST
    re: Will coop

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    Aussiestatman

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    6 months ago 01/11/2024 9:47pm EST
    re: Will coop

    Will coop wrote:

    So Kenya announced there provisional squad of 10 which doesn't really narrow it down other than the confusing nature of leaving off Chebet and Mutiso for men.

    Men:

    Eliud Kipchoge (Nike NN - Kaptagat)
    Kelvin Kiptum (Nike - Chepkorio)
    Vincent Ngetich (Asics Chojo - Iten)
    Timothy Kiplagat (Rosa - Kaptagat)
    Benson Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Bernard Koech (Adidas Kaptagat - Patrick Sang maybe, trains w/. Kipchoge/Kamworor)
    Geoffrey Kamworor (Nike NN Kaptagat)
    Cyprian Kotut (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Amos Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Titus Kipruto (Rosa - Kapsabet)

    Out (for now):

    Evans Chebet (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)

    Alexander Mutiso (Adidas ND Software (Japan)/Ngong)

    can't 100% confirm training notes but it gives some details, mostly GSC, Demadonna and Rosa

    Women:

    Ruth Chepngetich
    Rosemary Wanjiru
    Joyciline Jepkosgei
    Sheila Chepkirui
    Peres Jepchirchir
    Judith Jeptum Korir
    Selly Chepyego
    Hellen Obiri
    Sharon Lokedi
    Brigid Kosgei

    I don't think any of these women train together, maybe Kosgei and Jeptum though.

    Would still go with Chebet but otherwise probably B.Kipruto for the 3rd place ahead of Kamworor

    So, for Lokedi to use her Boston result to get an Olympic place, she would at least need to finish before Jeptum?

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    Aussiestatman

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    6 months ago 01/17/2024 5:23pm EST
    re: Will coop

    Will coop wrote:

    So Kenya announced there provisional squad of 10 which doesn't really narrow it down other than the confusing nature of leaving off Chebet and Mutiso for men.

    Men:

    Eliud Kipchoge (Nike NN - Kaptagat)
    Kelvin Kiptum (Nike - Chepkorio)
    Vincent Ngetich (Asics Chojo - Iten)
    Timothy Kiplagat (Rosa - Kaptagat)
    Benson Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Bernard Koech (Adidas Kaptagat - Patrick Sang maybe, trains w/. Kipchoge/Kamworor)
    Geoffrey Kamworor (Nike NN Kaptagat)
    Cyprian Kotut (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Amos Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Titus Kipruto (Rosa - Kapsabet)

    Out (for now):

    Evans Chebet (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)

    Alexander Mutiso (Adidas ND Software (Japan)/Ngong)

    can't 100% confirm training notes but it gives some details, mostly GSC, Demadonna and Rosa

    Women:

    Ruth Chepngetich
    Rosemary Wanjiru
    Joyciline Jepkosgei
    Sheila Chepkirui
    Peres Jepchirchir
    Judith Jeptum Korir
    Selly Chepyego
    Hellen Obiri
    Sharon Lokedi
    Brigid Kosgei

    I don't think any of these women train together, maybe Kosgei and Jeptum though.

    Would still go with Chebet but otherwise probably B.Kipruto for the 3rd place ahead of Kamworor

    Will Cyprian need a podium finish in Boston to be a chance to represent?

  • Will coop

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    6 months ago 01/18/2024 8:26pm EST
    re: Aussiestatman

    Aussiestatman wrote:

    Will coop wrote:

    So Kenya announced there provisional squad of 10 which doesn't really narrow it down other than the confusing nature of leaving off Chebet and Mutiso for men.

    Men:

    Eliud Kipchoge (Nike NN - Kaptagat)
    Kelvin Kiptum (Nike - Chepkorio)
    Vincent Ngetich (Asics Chojo - Iten)
    Timothy Kiplagat (Rosa - Kaptagat)
    Benson Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Bernard Koech (Adidas Kaptagat - Patrick Sang maybe, trains w/. Kipchoge/Kamworor)
    Geoffrey Kamworor (Nike NN Kaptagat)
    Cyprian Kotut (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Amos Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Titus Kipruto (Rosa - Kapsabet)

    Out (for now):

    Evans Chebet (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)

    Alexander Mutiso (Adidas ND Software (Japan)/Ngong)

    can't 100% confirm training notes but it gives some details, mostly GSC, Demadonna and Rosa

    Women:

    Ruth Chepngetich
    Rosemary Wanjiru
    Joyciline Jepkosgei
    Sheila Chepkirui
    Peres Jepchirchir
    Judith Jeptum Korir
    Selly Chepyego
    Hellen Obiri
    Sharon Lokedi
    Brigid Kosgei

    I don't think any of these women train together, maybe Kosgei and Jeptum though.

    Would still go with Chebet but otherwise probably B.Kipruto for the 3rd place ahead of Kamworor

    Will Cyprian need a podium finish in Boston to be a chance to represent?

    He'd probably need to win but the team might be picked before then (end of this month perhaps). Good athlete but don't see him making the team in almost any somewhat likely situation

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    Aussiestatman

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    6 months ago 01/19/2024 7:18pm EST
    re: Aussiestatman

    Aussiestatman wrote:

    Will coop wrote:

    So Kenya announced there provisional squad of 10 which doesn't really narrow it down other than the confusing nature of leaving off Chebet and Mutiso for men.

    Men:

    Eliud Kipchoge (Nike NN - Kaptagat)
    Kelvin Kiptum (Nike - Chepkorio)
    Vincent Ngetich (Asics Chojo - Iten)
    Timothy Kiplagat (Rosa - Kaptagat)
    Benson Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Bernard Koech (Adidas Kaptagat - Patrick Sang maybe, trains w/. Kipchoge/Kamworor)
    Geoffrey Kamworor (Nike NN Kaptagat)
    Cyprian Kotut (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Amos Kipruto (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)
    Titus Kipruto (Rosa - Kapsabet)

    Out (for now):

    Evans Chebet (Adidas 2Running - Kapsabet)

    Alexander Mutiso (Adidas ND Software (Japan)/Ngong)

    can't 100% confirm training notes but it gives some details, mostly GSC, Demadonna and Rosa

    Women:

    Ruth Chepngetich
    Rosemary Wanjiru
    Joyciline Jepkosgei
    Sheila Chepkirui
    Peres Jepchirchir
    Judith Jeptum Korir
    Selly Chepyego
    Hellen Obiri
    Sharon Lokedi
    Brigid Kosgei

    I don't think any of these women train together, maybe Kosgei and Jeptum though.

    Would still go with Chebet but otherwise probably B.Kipruto for the 3rd place ahead of Kamworor

    Will Cyprian need a podium finish in Boston to be a chance to represent?

    Apologies to the athlete, I think his name is CyBrian

  • Will coop

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    re: Aussiestatman

    Aussiestatman wrote:

    Aussiestatman wrote:

    Will Cyprian need a podium finish in Boston to be a chance to represent?

    Apologies to the athlete, I think his name is CyBrian

    I've seen both CyBrian and Cyprian. His brother is Martin Lel

  • toughtask

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    6 months ago 01/19/2024 10:53pm EST
    re: Will coop

    My prediction for the teams is:

    ETH men: Tamirat Tola, Leul Gebresilase, and Sisay Lemma, with Chalu Deso or Tsegaye Getachew as reserves

    ETH women: Tigist Assefa, Amane Beriso, and Gotytom Gebreslase, with Worknesh Degefa or Almaz Ayana as reserves

    KEN men: Elide Kipchoge, Kelvin Kiptum, and Benson Kiptruto, with Vincent Ngetich or Geoffrey Kamworor as reserves

    KEN women: Hellen Obiri, Ruth Chepngetich, and Peres Jepchirchir, with Brigid Kosgei or Sharon Lokedi as reserves

    I feel most confident in my picks for the Ethiopian men. For Kenyan men, I'd put Evans Chebet and Alexander Mutiso on reserve instead, but they aren't on the provisional list so I left them off. For the Ethiopian women, I think Degefa and Gebreslase could be switched around depending on their spring season and I could see Megertu Alemu on reserve instead. Kenyan women is tough because they have 4 who are head and shoulders above the rest so its really pretty much a crapshoot. It'll come down to the spring marathons I imagine

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    Aussiestatman

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    re: toughtask

    You said Kenyan women: 4 head and shoulders then listed 5 with the last two an either/or choice

  • toughtask

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    6 months ago 01/21/2024 11:00pm EST
    re: Aussiestatman

    I couldn't remember how many reserves are usually named, but to be clear, I meant I think the team will be 3 out of Obiri, Jepchirchir, Kosgei, and Chepngetich. If Lokedi is on the team it will be as a reserve

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