Watch Letsrun defend childbeatings... "it was normal back in the day, tough love, it made them who they are today, it must have worked...." etc. Savages.
I hope now you can realize they drew the line when violence came to Ingrid. You can beat us, but not our sister. I have nothing but respect for the Brothers.
No offense but you sound extremely sheltered. Or have a very narrow and naive scope of how the world works. Not sure where you’re from but getting spanked or hit for misbehaving when you’re a kid is extremely common where I’m from. Beating a child to the point where they have to get treated at a hospital crosses the line though. Not everyone was privileged or lucky enough to grow up in a perfect and loving family like you, with parents who gave you kisses and hugs every day.
The nick "Sandnes" refers to a place in Norway and getting spanked or hit for misbehaving is not common at all in this country (has been illegal according to Norwegian law since 1987). Nor was it common back in Gjerts childhood.
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She got pregnant at 16 by Gjert who was 20. They got married, and she's likely been financially dependent on him to an extent. It's incredibly hard to leave an abusive marriage. Maybe he threatened her if she left. The brothers said that Gjert has controlled them and threatened them a lot, so he could've done the same to his wife. If a woman is m*rdered, statistics show that it's likely to be by her partner.
Where was this violence in the show? i found gjert to be incredibly diplomatic and fair in how he handled himself. yes he was tough but he had aims at the very very top.
Lol and that's the problem, did Norwegians become a morally filthy bunch after 1987? Since Proverbs 13:24 cannot be wrong, then only Norwegians can become degenerate right?
No offense but you sound extremely sheltered. Or have a very narrow and naive scope of how the world works. Not sure where you’re from but getting spanked or hit for misbehaving when you’re a kid is extremely common where I’m from. Beating a child to the point where they have to get treated at a hospital crosses the line though. Not everyone was privileged or lucky enough to grow up in a perfect and loving family like you, with parents who gave you kisses and hugs every day.
“Physical abuse is common! Therefor you should accept being abused! It’s common from where I’m from, so you should just be okay with it”
Now let’s do a thought experiment and switch the words physical abuse out with…
Trafficking? Opiate abuse? Slavery? Child marriage? Public execution?
You could use any of these horrible things and so many more to make the same argument you just made. Don’t act like the people that believe hitting a kid isn’t okay are the narrow minded ones. You being blinded by your culture is the narrowmindedness.
You really think the Ingebrigstens are being estranged from their father over the occasional light spanking when they were kids? What a delusional thread holy crap.
Are you really comparing getting spanked to getting publicly executed? I knew you were stupid but this is just insanity.
Every kid should have a healthy fear of their father. That’s what keeps them in line. And that’s why moms often will say, “Just wait until your father gets home!” to get their kids to behave.
Finally a person with ingenious moral IQ! That's totally spot on. Daddy needs to sow fear in especially his sons, if not also his daughters. But especially sons needs to be spanked as hard as possible the moment they commit crime or sin. Better to die under Daddy's hands as a child then be executed at the gallows as a grown adult!
Be serious guys......it's a no brainer here. Gotta spank the child, and, especially the sons!
With the 3 Brothers having the same story it appears far more credible. It's far more likely he was just a bad parent who potentially adversely affected his children psychologically rather than some criminal.
He probably intended the best for his children, but he had anger problems and likely oftentimes took out his problems on his children. It is poor parenting that adversely affects the children and Gjert likely developed his poor parenting skills from his own parents/upbringing. He wanted to be a loving father but his issues got in the way and caused the parenting incompetence.
The press and people reading it will probably over-analyze and sensationalized, depicting him as some monster when he intended to be a loving father but made some bad mistakes in the process.
There is discipline, such as spanking (a few swats on your bum meant to embarrass you / shake you out of your misconduct), and parents taking out their anger by hitting their kids, because they can't control their emotions / do not care about the impact it will have on their kids. I can see an argument for the former, but if a parent is lashing out cause they are simply mad, that is not acceptable, and can definitely cause children to have psychological issues for the rest of their life. Maybe it is common place in some parts of the world, but that is different than saying it is a good and positive thing.
The fact that the sons are being so vague about what they allege Gjert did tells me it was just light spanking. They realize most people don’t consider that to be a concern, and they would look ridiculous for their actions against their father if they specified it was merely spanking.
No, letsrun is just putting into context when and why capital punishment is needed, and it will be definitely needed at some point in the course of growing up years mind you! I fully have faith that letsrun is on the same page as me, the RF King, regarding Proverbs 13:24 "He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him."
And I fully know and understand Gjert from the way he speaks in all his interviews that he loves all his sons and daughter. So my case is established fully.
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Not surprised one bit. Henrik who has a bit of a brash personality is clearly super scared of his dad in the documentary. No antics or smart remarks when Gjert is near.
My father is english. He grew up in boarding schools. He treated my brothers and I just the same as he was treated in the 50s and 60s. I had more physical punishments than any of my peers. American school districts would go haywire reading the recaps of some of those encounters.
I was not an Ingebrigsten on the track but my success in athletics was above average and my career is better than 95% of people.
I despise my father and his cruelty. But maybe it helped? Maybe for the Ingebrigsten's it actually helped too.
Some people think “violence” can be verbal. Is this really about Gjert yelling at them from time to time when they were misbehaving?
Depends on the nature of it. Yelling can be psychologically harmful to children especially of it's derived from anger issues. If a child does something really bad, then yelling makes sense. If the child is annoying you and you randomly flip as a parent, then that's potentially psychologically harmful and could lead to child living in fear/distress.
Judging by some of the replies in this thread, a lot of people have been physically abused by a parent and think it's normal, healthy and leads to greatness. That's called a coping mechanism, you all need therapy.
Sounds like you’re projecting. Perhaps you are the one who needs therapy to cope with the fact that your father never taught you discipline, and now you routinely fail to accomplish your long term goals and fulfill your potential.
I mean, I don't know why you expect people to be ashamed for not being beat as kids. (PS not being beat as a kid is not the same as being showered with affection every day).
In all Nordic countries it is forbidden to use violence against children and a very large majority of the population thinks it is good that it is forbidden. That is why this is attracting so much attention. If this had happened in the US, there wouldn't have been so many headlines. If a parent has to use violence, it is a huge failure.