Why is California CIF SS forced to run MT SAC

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  • Jake of a course

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    1 month ago 06/19/2024 8:39pm EDT
    re: Toughest/Greatest Cross Country Course

    Toughest/Greatest Cross Country Course wrote:

    Mt Sac is known as the world's toughest cross country course. Kids will brag that they ran Mt Sac for the rest of their lives. It's an honor to run Mt Sac.

    My Sac is a Joke of a course around the country. They tried to have pros race a sound running event and no one wanted to race it. It’s a pathetic and have on the road for half the race. Only a few old timers love it in Southern California. Otherwise the rest of the country and California makes jokes about it

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    NPXC_Coach

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    1 month ago 06/19/2024 9:14pm EDT
    re: Toughest/Greatest Cross Country Course

    I have no issues with meets on tough courses. I actually like Mt SAC, but I don't like it for CIF. Twice. It takes so much out of the Southern Section runners' legs before state having to do it 2x. I'd rather see SS runners feeling their best for Woodward. I am, of course, bias since we're in SS.

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    Ryno16

    Member since 07/31/2023.

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    1 month ago 06/19/2024 11:15pm EDT
    re: NPXC_Coach

    Last year's rain before CIF finals was the best thing that ever happened to the Southern section. Putting the kids on the Mt. Sac rain course put far less pressure on their legs the week before states, and a lot of very fast 3-mile times were posted. Whether it was a factor or not, the Southern Section teams had much more success the following week at State Championships in 2023.

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    Ryno16

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    1 month ago 06/19/2024 11:19pm EDT
    re: NPXC_Coach

    NPXC_Coach wrote:

    I have no issues with meets on tough courses. I actually like Mt SAC, but I don't like it for CIF. Twice. It takes so much out of the Southern Section runners' legs before state having to do it 2x. I'd rather see SS runners feeling their best for Woodward. I am, of course, bias since we're in SS.

    100%. Good post. 4 races there a year (for those who choose to run fastback and the Mt. Sac Invite, as well as prelims and CIF Finals) is way too much. I'd prefer my kid not run any races there other than CIF.

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    PoMan_Official

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    1 month ago 06/20/2024 3:02pm EDT
    re: Toughest/Greatest Cross Country Course

    This is one tough course. Probably the toughest course I have ever seen. I ran HS CC in Kansas and Virginia and had never run anything like Mt. SAC.

    Mt. SAC is like those masochistic ultra distance courses designed by a sadist. I have an idea as I rode the ebike on the full course to film the SS Prelims: In fact, I was the village idiot riding the e-bike with the camera pointing backward for 10 of the SS prelim races (the hills killed my batteries so I couldn't do all the races).

    On the switchbacks it was so steep and tight I had to build a bit of distance in front of the runners as they could catch up to me up the switch backs.

    Down the reservoir hill, I was dirt tracking down just to stay in front of the lead runners.

    The back ground isn't that nice at Mt. SAC so from a filming perspective it doesn't look as nice as Clovis.

    Clovis is optimal and best for filming.

  • I dont want my name here

    Anonymous Poster

    1 month ago 06/20/2024 3:41pm EDT
    re: NPXC_Coach

    NPXC_Coach wrote:

    I have no issues with meets on tough courses. I actually like Mt SAC, but I don't like it for CIF. Twice. It takes so much out of the Southern Section runners' legs before state having to do it 2x. I'd rather see SS runners feeling their best for Woodward. I am, of course, bias since we're in SS.

    Are we crying about this again? Southern Section has plenty of advantages over the other sections and gets all the publicity but yet we have to make a huge deal of having to run one tough course.

  • Tilderato

    Anonymous Poster

    1 month ago 06/20/2024 5:39pm EDT
    re: Jake of a course

    Jake of a course wrote:

    Toughest/Greatest Cross Country Course wrote:

    Mt Sac is known as the world's toughest cross country course. Kids will brag that they ran Mt Sac for the rest of their lives. It's an honor to run Mt Sac.

    My Sac is a Joke of a course around the country. They tried to have pros race a sound running event and no one wanted to race it. It’s a pathetic and have on the road for half the race. Only a few old timers love it in Southern California. Otherwise the rest of the country and California makes jokes about it

    Maybe you should clarify that they tried to have pros race a 8k or 10k version of the traditional 2.93 mile course. I can understand their trepidation. Apples and oranges.

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    Hal Harkness

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    1 month ago 06/20/2024 8:20pm EDT
    re: garmischgirl

    Rainer Wulf retired a year ago and I'm not in-charge of anything. Get your facts straight. Yes, there was a ballot circulated amongst coaches after the final season at the Riverside Golf Course to get feeling on where the meet should go. The strong consensus was to return to Mt. Sac.

    There are a whole lot of factors that go into selecting the Prelims/Finals Course. If you don't like Mt. Sac, get active and find a better one the checks ALL the boxes.

    This is not a new discussion.

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    dna

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    1 month ago 06/20/2024 10:05pm EDT
    re: I dont want my name here

    I dont want my name here wrote:

    NPXC_Coach wrote:

    I have no issues with meets on tough courses. I actually like Mt SAC, but I don't like it for CIF. Twice. It takes so much out of the Southern Section runners' legs before state having to do it 2x. I'd rather see SS runners feeling their best for Woodward. I am, of course, bias since we're in SS.

    Are we crying about this again? Southern Section has plenty of advantages over the other sections and gets all the publicity but yet we have to make a huge deal of having to run one tough course.

    COACHY do you really think yo can sneak back into this conversation with a name change?
    You got exposed (comment #18,23,24 & especially 25). School size is a fair point but you fail to acknowledge that lots of deserving SS teams and individuals get screwed by the SS.

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