Kessler Update - 3:35 in Berlin

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  • Noah

    THOUGHTSLEADER

    Member since 06/06/2018.

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    10 months ago 09/05/2023 6:10pm EDT
    re: king999

    Few things:

    That 800 isn’t particularly strong and will likely be a 1:45 low race. Don’t need to see that. If targeting a race why not Brussels 2,000? 16 entrants (3 pacers) isn’t high for DL and a couple mediocre Belgians are in. But maybe can’t get in? Otherwise Zagreb has an 800 Sunday which could be stronger. 5th Ave Mile is Sunday and he’s not entered. Wouldn’t make much sense to have flown out if that was the plan. Has Kerr, Habz, Teare, Giles so decently strong.

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    Hot Takes

    Member since 05/14/2019.

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    10 months ago 09/05/2023 6:23pm EDT
    re: kess from a rose

    kess from a rose wrote:

    3:35 mid for 4th. Underwhelming.

    If 3:35 is underwhelming then it means you're really fast. He's easily one of our top 5 guys. Only Hocker and Nuguse have put up more consistent good marks than Kessler. He's only 20 years old, it wouldn't be shocking at all if he made the olympic team next year and became a consistent 3:32 type guy. There's probably a 40% chance he makes the team next year. If he's not one of the top 3, there aren't many other guys who have a similar shot as him who would be the next guy in.

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    This is Jim Kiler

    Member since 03/31/2020.

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    10 months ago 09/05/2023 6:41pm EDT
    re: king999

    I got the feeling Kessler would rather be doing one of the other things he's great at, rather than running this 1500. I'm also a bit upset Parsons is still pretending he's German.

    Hobbs should consider the steeple, seems more in line with his tendencies.

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    Newname

    Member since 12/23/2022.

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    10 months ago 09/05/2023 6:43pm EDT
    re: ahhh the peanut gallery

    ahhh the peanut gallery wrote:

    Er... wrote:

    Ah the great LRC “that time is *worth* that time - x seconds.” Actually, 3:35-mid shows he can run 3:35-mid right now.

    Makes total sense. Jakob running a 13:11 recently means he's only capable of a 13:11 now.

    A winning time if different than a 4th place time

  • kess from a rose

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    10 months ago 09/05/2023 6:46pm EDT
    re: Hot Takes

    Hot Takes wrote:

    kess from a rose wrote:

    3:35 mid for 4th. Underwhelming.

    If 3:35 is underwhelming then it means you're really fast. He's easily one of our top 5 guys. Only Hocker and Nuguse have put up more consistent good marks than Kessler. He's only 20 years old, it wouldn't be shocking at all if he made the olympic team next year and became a consistent 3:32 type guy. There's probably a 40% chance he makes the team next year. If he's not one of the top 3, there aren't many other guys who have a similar shot as him who would be the next guy in.

    Why do I have to be really fast for HK’s 3:35 to be underwhelming. It’s precisely his pedigree that you mentioned that influences my watching this performance and feeling “meh” about it.

  • Sub-9 guy

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    10 months ago 09/06/2023 8:06pm EDT
    re: THOUGHTSLEADER

    THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

    Few things:

    That 800 isn’t particularly strong and will likely be a 1:45 low race. Don’t need to see that. If targeting a race why not Brussels 2,000? 16 entrants (3 pacers) isn’t high for DL and a couple mediocre Belgians are in. But maybe can’t get in? Otherwise Zagreb has an 800 Sunday which could be stronger. 5th Ave Mile is Sunday and he’s not entered. Wouldn’t make much sense to have flown out if that was the plan. Has Kerr, Habz, Teare, Giles so decently strong.

    The dude should run the Bowerman Mile at the Pre Classic to finish his 2023 campaign. Target sub-3:50 and hopefully faster. Why not?

  • wannabepro25

    Member since 04/23/2021.

    994 posts. Last post 1 day ago.
    10 months ago 09/06/2023 8:24pm EDT
    re: Sub-9 guy

    Sub-9 guy wrote:

    THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

    Few things:

    That 800 isn’t particularly strong and will likely be a 1:45 low race. Don’t need to see that. If targeting a race why not Brussels 2,000? 16 entrants (3 pacers) isn’t high for DL and a couple mediocre Belgians are in. But maybe can’t get in? Otherwise Zagreb has an 800 Sunday which could be stronger. 5th Ave Mile is Sunday and he’s not entered. Wouldn’t make much sense to have flown out if that was the plan. Has Kerr, Habz, Teare, Giles so decently strong.

    The dude should run the Bowerman Mile at the Pre Classic to finish his 2023 campaign. Target sub-3:50 and hopefully faster. Why not?

    You do realize the Prefontaine classic is a dimond league final this year. Kessler hasn’t run a Diamond league this season so he has zero chance of running it. And if rumors are true about an American bye, they are taking Hocker over him.

  • Sub-9 guy

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    10 months ago 09/06/2023 8:41pm EDT
    re: wannabepro25

    Nope, that’s my bad. I just saw it on the calendar, thought the timing was weird. So only if Hocker doesn’t run would Kessler get a chance.

  • china joe

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    10 months ago 09/06/2023 9:18pm EDT
    re: Newname

    Newname wrote:

    ahhh the peanut gallery wrote:

    Makes total sense. Jakob running a 13:11 recently means he's only capable of a 13:11 now.

    A winning time if different than a 4th place time

    So Luis Grijalva, in the same race, was only capable of a 13:12?

  • HolttheBolt

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    10 months ago 09/06/2023 9:36pm EDT
    re: Sub-9 guy

    Sub-9 guy wrote:

    Nope, that’s my bad. I just saw it on the calendar, thought the timing was weird. So only if Hocker doesn’t run would Kessler get a chance.

    Nah Eric Holt would be next man up, Apparently Lord Coe was super impressed by his final workout before the trials.

  • cope and sneed

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    10 months ago 09/06/2023 9:47pm EDT
    re: HolttheBolt

    HolttheBolt wrote:

    Sub-9 guy wrote:

    Nope, that’s my bad. I just saw it on the calendar, thought the timing was weird. So only if Hocker doesn’t run would Kessler get a chance.

    Nah Eric Holt would be next man up, Apparently Lord Coe was super impressed by his final workout before the trials.

    the only nice thing about the season being mostly over is that people finally shut up about eric holt

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