Molly Seidel second female at Speedgoat 28k today

You guys are chasing your own tails on this one. It is obvious to me that Molly is trying to figure herself out and have fun running just to run. Her using the Molly Shapiro name is not meant to be hardcore misleading or deceptive to anyone as much as it is to retain some sort of privacy. I guess if I were her, I would pre-pay the race director but ask to officially bandit. The timers could also accomodate similar requests easily.

Still, you guys need to get a grip. Perhaps she just wanted to be a part of the event in the mountains and entirely stress free.

Alicia was reinstated. So, Molly was third, 30 minutes back. Probably a long training run effort for her.

Agree or disagree with her, like her or dislike her, at least understand her rational. Here is her explanation for why she ran this race as posted on instragram. Personally I like the attitude. Always good to do something bonkers once in a while. Keep it fun.

As a pro road runner I think the trick to preventing burnout is to do something a little bonkers once in a while. So with Jon’s blessing (& the ferratin levels getting back up) I hopped in the Speedgoat 28k for a fun & extremely hard long run before starting the fall marathon build.
It’s days like this that make me remember how much I freaking love this sport, and give me a lot more appreciation for the trail runners out there; Y’all are f***ing nuts 😂 Heart is full, quads are trashed, and mind is ready to hit the roads again hard. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming, and race announcement coming soon 🤫

I just posted what she said about the race. It was in fact a long fun training run. A bonkers activity as she called it and is now about to start serious marathon training for a fall marathon. I really like her and hope she can stay healthy which is never a sure thing with Molly.

What a gigantic load of BS. You don't go from claiming to be "anemic" last week to running all out at a 28k mountain race with big elevation.

Can you confirm this? Was at the race and it was VERY, very clear that she cut the course. She was behind Hannah at the top of the last climb and nobody (Hannah and men who were in the vicinity) saw her pass them on the descent.

Not sure how you can delude yourself into thinking you won a race by 15 minutes when you never passed the woman who was ahead of you for the whole second half/ was beating you by a minute with 6 miles to go in the race.

Molly is too independent. She makes mistakes because she loves the sport. This is both understandable and forgivable. But she needs a strong coach to tell her NO in certain situations. Jon is too much of a buddy.

Unless you talk to her on a plane or on Bumble, uh, like, assuming either of those even, uh, happened.

Running a fall marathon considering her current habits and training status is a huge mistake. Say goodbye to another Olympic Games appearance.

Sorry, I think I got confused between looking at the results and looking at twitter several times over the course of this thread. I thought Alicia wasn't there when this thread started, and she was in first when I wrote that more recent reply, but maybe she was listed as first all along. Now it looks like she isn't there again and Hannah won.

You know this for sure?

Privacy? Are you kidding? She posted about it all over the internet.

She's a weirdo. If it were a dude acting this way he'd be universally ridiculed (see the Seth Demoor thread as an example), but I guess we've gotta have a few pathetic white knights in here.

the anemia thing is just an excuse not to get smoked in a road race. and what is with the fake name again at speedgoat? does she really thing anyone there gives an s@#t who she is? maybe she needs some sort of race for her puma contract? she is probably getting a lot of money from them and she might as well get what she can from them as her best day was when she earned her olympic medal. that is a very rare and grand achievement, especially for an american, but those days are long gone.

I’m also a big Molly fan having known her in college. I’m not even sure this is a “listen to your body” thing, but more of a fact that she needs to grow up and realize that she’s a professional runner, and not only is she a professional runner, she’s an Olympic bronze medalist. I know she says that running “quiets her mind” and I think that’s pretty clearly the case with her erratic pattern of running. I’m mainly concerned with the fact that she is acting so erratic. I don’t think her mental health is in a good place and I don’t think she is surrounded by good people. Her boyfriend and coach do nothing but enable her erratic behavior. Molly, when her mental health is in a good spot, is a meticulous worker but also the personification of cool. She’s genuinely fun to be around. When she’s not in a good place, she’s withdrawn from social settings and acts bizarrely, in running and outside of it, almost as a means for getting attention or crying for help. Her behavior right now indicates she needs help.

yes, Jon Green has shown himself to be nothing but a yes man and a buddy, nothing wrong with this but cannot be in the place of a coach- Emily Infeld and Grayson Murphy saw this in record quick time and got themselves out of the situation asap

this boyfriend also confuses me: upper half is giving "Carl from Accounting" and lower half is "Travis Barker-lite"

your point about the lack of professionalism here is spot on. I'm not blaming her and I don't know if she can just "grow up" in your words but it is undeniable that she is going about this in a completely unprofessional unadult manner due to the mental health challenges that she has faced for many years which running is directly tied to.

she's never going to have sustainable smart longevity-focused training when running, ie her JOB, is being misused as a coping mechanism for serious health problems. it's just a recipe for disaster which we are already seeing play out unfortunately. i mean how can she really hope to compete consistently and in the long term with all that extra noise going on in the background?

when she starts looking tiny and veiny in the arms it is usually an indication that the mental health is suffering... look at Feb pic from USA Half and compare to USA 6k in July. weight has noticeably dropped down again (not at NYC 2021 or Boston 2022 levels but it is heading in that direction). concerning bc she is going into a marathon block not at the end of one.

without a doubt the anemia diagnosis is true but why when she has been living at altitude for a while now and is not in a high marathon block? I had it back it the day kind of out of nowhere too and I was 100% not treating my body well at all at that time.

hope she can pull through truly but when nothing changes everything stays the same.

To say she’s not in a marathon block currently she was knocking out 110 mile weeks for a few months over June/July. And did say she felt crap. And then obviously underperformed (in her words, I think she should be kind to herself) in The B.A.A. She’d been ill the week before and had zero rest from running high mileage it seemed.

I think her and Jon are focused on the narrative that they think they discovered in the Olympics that she is good on a very high mileage. And they need to rethink this. She obviously also needs a better team around here as no professional runner should become anemic without it being picked up in routine tests.

Anyway, like I said I’m a big fan and I just want her to look after herself. Physically and mentally.

I am a fan and at this point she has to be doing this to intentionally mess with Letsrun.

Since her bronze everything has been so strange (the TUE, the performances, the fake names/trail races, and everything else) it seems so perfect to make Letsrun upset, it has to be intentional.

I know this is controversial, but I do think as a professional she is held to different standards than a hobby jogger. This behavior along with the lack of honest communication I don't agree with.

This actually makes sense, I am sorry to hear it. I think you are correct, she is still struggling with ED...looking at this and Allie O posts, both of them are not healthy and still trapped in their illness. Neither of them make healthy choices for their bodies. Both of them are a bit erratic and irrational with their training. To me, both of them are sending out strong signals that they need help and they are not ok (the making up weird stories is part of it, Allie O is a little ahead of Molly because she is actually verbalizing that she's struggling and not ok). It's sad, both of them were competing along side each other in college. Looking back on those pictures saddens me. At this point I don't think running is healthy for either of them and I hope people who love them are encouraging them to take care of themselves and maybe stop the over exercising that they seem to be addicted to. I wish them both the best and I hope they get healthy.

She has way too much of a following for her to care about letsrun. If she actually is intentionally trolling, she has to realize that there are young girls out there she inspired several years back and are witnessing a series of contradictory events and decisions.

This is like Lebron James pulling out of a few games due to an injury but seen playing at a celebrity golf tournament instead.