But then why do that and be labeled an admitted doper for her life, when she feels she’s innocent. I know Shelby and I can tell you all she’s definitely not worried about letsrun opinion.
It's perfectly fine not to care about what people on letsrun think, but if she's disregarding what the people she's racing against think when she shows up at these races, that says a lot about her (lack of) character.
The fact that Shelby shows up at unsanctioned races where she is not welcome is poor performance on her part because she is completely dismissing the valid concerns of others, making it all about her. It shows a selfishness and self aggrandizing behavior, me me me, I have to race even though I'm banned, me me me.
When Shelby raced the beer mile the consensus for most was "who cares! it's a beer mile! is she supposed to be miserable?!"
But the competitors at the beer mile did not want her there. It might be silly to you but it was something that these women worked hard for. Two women broke the world record that day but Shelby got to brag about a "world record" on her instagram while Elizabeth Laseter faced hate and dismissiveness for standing up and expressing concerns.
Shelby is free to do whatever she wants while she is serving her ban for cheating. But if she shows up at races she deserves to face criticism.
If the race is not sanctioned by USATF (most road races are not), then she can compete. I agree that it is a joke and that there are no "contamination" rules being enforced.
Exactly. A ban from WA or USATF only extends to races these bodies sanction. If I want to put on an independent road race and let her run, even pay her to come and run, nothing can stop me. If I give prize money she can be eligible to win it.
In late July or early August there's a big mid week ten mile race here where I live. There's what passes for decent prize money. A few years back there was an Ethiopian who had been banned for PEDs who was living in New York City who came here at least twice, maybe three times, won the race, and went home with a few hundred bucks. He made his living that way, i.e. going to road races that had money but no USATF certification.
Seems like Shelby is keeping in great shape. It’s going to be epic watching the meltdown on LRC when she comes back from her ban and starts winning races again. Only 18 more months!
From the race website: “We are excited to announce a $500 cash prize to the overall top male and female in the half-marathon and $300 to the overall top male and female in the 10k.”
2 years into her ban, I'm over this fence sitting.
you're still not sure? Look at her progression as a runner, especially from 2018-2020.
I don't understand the judgement of her progression. Starting from when she was 20 and began taking the 1500 seriously, she had a steady progression at ages where runners are expected to improve:
4:13 (at 20) 4:10 and NCAA champ (21) 4:09 (22) 4:03 as first year pro (23) 4:06 (24) 3:57 (25) 3:54 (26)
Sure, if you myopically look at 24-25 you might think it was a huge jump. But you have to look at the 4:03 at 23. The year after that was an aberration in her times. She probably could have run 4:00 that year in the right circumstances. That was the year she won her first US championship in the 5000. Had she been in the right race and run 4:00 like she probably could have, then her progression looks like this:
4:13 (at 20) 4:10 and NCAA champ (21) 4:09 (22) 4:03 as first year pro (23) 4:00 (24) 3:57 (25) 3:54 (26)
She ran it at the Okoboji Homecoming races this morning. $500 to first place. Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?http://www.onlineraceresults.com/race/view_race.php?race_id=74861#racetop
2 years into her ban, I'm over this fence sitting.
you're still not sure? Look at her progression as a runner, especially from 2018-2020.
I don't understand the judgement of her progression. Starting from when she was 20 and began taking the 1500 seriously, she had a steady progression at ages where runners are expected to improve:
4:13 (at 20) 4:10 and NCAA champ (21) 4:09 (22) 4:03 as first year pro (23) 4:06 (24) 3:57 (25) 3:54 (26)
Sure, if you myopically look at 24-25 you might think it was a huge jump. But you have to look at the 4:03 at 23. The year after that was an aberration in her times. She probably could have run 4:00 that year in the right circumstances. That was the year she won her first US championship in the 5000. Had she been in the right race and run 4:00 like she probably could have, then her progression looks like this:
4:13 (at 20) 4:10 and NCAA champ (21) 4:09 (22) 4:03 as first year pro (23) 4:00 (24) 3:57 (25) 3:54 (26)
About as steady as can be!
Could have would have should have. Give me a break.
she ran 4:09 coming out of college dropping it to 4:03 in her first year as pro. 2017 saw a plateau and then out of no where she is running 3:57??? If you are running a 4:03 in your first year as a pro, a reasonable goal would probably be for you to break 4 at some point in your career but little miss doper made it look easy, and brought it down yet again in 2019.
Now pull her 5K times. See those jumps? 14:23 against one other person on an empty track.
Before she was caught it looked like she could just do anything. Very few runners improve at her absurd rate.
Could have would have should have. Give me a break.
she ran 4:09 coming out of college dropping it to 4:03 in her first year as pro. 2017 saw a plateau and then out of no where she is running 3:57??? If you are running a 4:03 in your first year as a pro, a reasonable goal would probably be for you to break 4 at some point in your career but little miss doper made it look easy, and brought it down yet again in 2019.
Now pull her 5K times. See those jumps? 14:23 against one other person on an empty track.
Before she was caught it looked like she could just do anything. Very few runners improve at her absurd rate.
Shelby didn't plateau in 2017. She won her first national titles that year! She was a demonstrably better runner in 2017 than the year before. Even the letsrun crew noticed it and anointed her a star. They wrote: "Houlihan is establishing herself as one of America’s best distance runners." She was absolutely good enough to run 4:00 that year.
By LetsRun.com June 23, 2017 SACRAMENTO, Calif. --The women’s 5000 final at the 2017 USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships was billed as the battle
The most obvious doper as can be. LOL. I mean it is completely normal to go from 4:09 at the end of college to 3:54, a time only heavy dopers can run. And we have the appearance of the "undertrained" myth. So the jury is still out on someone with an obvious doping progression, a doping positive, and the dumbest "defense" as is human possible to come up with. Like I said, this sport is hopeless.
The most obvious doper as can be. LOL. I mean it is completely normal to go from 4:09 at the end of college to 3:54, a time only heavy dopers can run. And we have the appearance of the "undertrained" myth. So the jury is still out on someone with an obvious doping progression, a doping positive, and the dumbest "defense" as is human possible to come up with. Like I said, this sport is hopeless.
The most obvious doper as can be. LOL. I mean it is completely normal to go from 4:09 at the end of college to 3:54, a time only heavy dopers can run. And we have the appearance of the "undertrained" myth. So the jury is still out on someone with an obvious doping progression, a doping positive, and the dumbest "defense" as is human possible to come up with. Like I said, this sport is hopeless.
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