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It's a tough record especially when you are just running for time. Wasn't Rudy running to race the Russians or something?
Old guy here. Chapa was running the invitational 10,000 at the Drake Relays. He was an 18 1/2 year old high school senior running against adult men, including Garry Bjorklund and Ed Mendoza. Chapa was part of a 5 man breakaway late in the race. Someone near me remarked "It's a 5 man race!" Then somebody else said, "No, it's 4 men and a boy." Chapa raced it right to the line, and, remarkably, that race is his lifetime 10K PR.
It's a tough record especially when you are just running for time. Wasn't Rudy running to race the Russians or something?
Old guy here. Chapa was running the invitational 10,000 at the Drake Relays. He was an 18 1/2 year old high school senior running against adult men, including Garry Bjorklund and Ed Mendoza. Chapa was part of a 5 man breakaway late in the race. Someone near me remarked "It's a 5 man race!" Then somebody else said, "No, it's 4 men and a boy." Chapa raced it right to the line, and, remarkably, that race is his lifetime 10K PR.
Not so remarkable given that he never ran one seriously again. I believe the only time he ran was a quality 29:00 tempo run with Salazar, Dave Taylor, Terry Williams and Don Clary. He later ran a solo 13:19 and probably could have managed in the 27:40s.
To be honest I feel like this record is only "tough" because normal high school training is completely inadequate to run a fast 10k. In my opinion Lex's 13:33 is much more impressive than 28:32, but in order for Lex to run 28:32 he'd have to train specifically for the 10k for an extended period.
You're probably right.
Lex's 13:34.96 5k record is roughly equivalent to a 28:10 10k ((13:35 + 30 secs) x 2 = 28:10).
However, Leo mentioned a few L&L videos ago he upped is mileage to 75/wk to prepare for 8k xc races. Lex, being injured a few months ago, likely never reached that number.
Gorze, on the other hand, is (reputedly) the high guy amongst this year's standouts. Have never seen a number attached to his name but some have implied Ty is up over 80 and possibly quite higher.
Would be extraordinary to see Gorze take another shot at Lex's new 5k record at NON . . . just few days after racing the 2M at Brooks PR.
And, who will be the best college frosh xc runner this fall? Gorze should be the most prepared for it . . . but the boost in mileage from hs to college will be the great equalizer . . . but Ty should be a strong candidate for WA's traveling squad :-)
I still can't believe that Leo and Lex won't be there, especially since they said last year that the 2 mile record was a goal of theirs.
I think it's because they're running the NON mile right after and they both want to break 4 for the first time. Leo could probably do the double, but Lex hasn't run faster than 3:47 this year. He ran 4:01 last year and just ran 13:34, so he probably can, but I don't think either of them want to risk going in tired.
To be honest I feel like this record is only "tough" because normal high school training is completely inadequate to run a fast 10k. In my opinion Lex's 13:33 is much more impressive than 28:32, but in order for Lex to run 28:32 he'd have to train specifically for the 10k for an extended period.
Nah that record for that age group is insane. There's no such thing as "normal high school training" and if you aren't doing a lot of threshold/10k intensity well you aren't going to be very good.
Do I think the 10k record could be faster if they ran the event more often and HS kids focused on it ? Maybe. Do I think it would be much faster ? No chance in heck.
28:32 is worth about 13:41. Put some respect on it.
Congrats to Gorze for giving it a go and now he's the fastest Oregon prep at 10,000.
Some more background on 1976. Chapa, Hulst and McChesney had an incredible race at the 1975 Junior AAU meet 10,000, with Chapa nipping Hulst 29:11.0 to 29:11.1, breaking Lindgren's national record of 29:17. Both were just juniors. McChesney came in 4th, obliterating the sophomore record running 29:27.
The 1976 Olympic Trials qualifying time was 28:40. All three of them gave it a go that spring.
First, in late March, McChesney ran 29:06 at an Oregon dual meet, leading Paul Geis and Terry Williams until the final lap, setting the new NR.
The next weekend, Hulst ran 28:55 at a UCI meet for a new NR.
Two weeks later at Drake, Chapa ran his 28:32 and qualified for the Olympic Trials. He ran 30:xx in his heat and didn't make the final, but no one really expected him to at that age.