She is one of the top college runners of all time. So was King Chez. He was better than her. And comparing her to Minson or Schweizer doesn't make sense. Coburn, Frerichs, Schweizer, and Monson were improving much faster than Tuohy through college. She is likely to run 4:00 and 15:40 but those times will cause people to lose interest when she gets beat by people who they have never heard of. I think she should go pro today. She could get a huge contract but if she stagnates or gets injured, money decreases or disappears if a career ending injury.
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She is one of the top college runners of all time. So was King Chez. He was better than her. And comparing her to Minson or Schweizer doesn't make sense. Coburn, Frerichs, Schweizer, and Monson were improving much faster than Tuohy through college. She is likely to run 4:00 and 15:40 but those times will cause people to lose interest when she gets beat by people who they have never heard of. I think she should go pro today. She could get a huge contract but if she stagnates or gets injured, money decreases or disappears if a career ending injury.
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semihaze wrote:
it took monson 4 years to be competitive at the world level .. and i srsly believe it wont take katelyn that long to be competitive at an international level .. although surely she will race international competitions right away, elly henes out there racing internationally on her first year, not podium potential but still thats what rookies need, they need experience on that level
i just know diamond league is waiting for her to turn pro so BAD, world athletic announcers already know who she is and probably how big of a fanbase she carries behind.,. i just hope she picks a PRO team that actually races and not just come out on trials like BTC
It was more like 2 years I believe.......
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Wow? Gold medalist? You rhink she is capable of 3:50 and 14:00? These types of posts are what make Tuohy fans seem obnoxious. You are insulting dozens of women who are so much better than her. What if I claim that some random woman will surpass Tuohy and Roe and Valby and every other top woman in the NCAA?
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Yes. She qualified for the Olympics just 2 years after graduating. Let's see if Tuohy can do that.
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You don't know that any more than we can say other runners will make huge improvements.
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Ummmmm wrote:
high school xc coach wrote:
The reason to go pro is so that she can get better training partners, better training conditions, and to have more time for training and recovery. If she believes she can optimize all of that while still in school, she should stay. If she doesn't believe that, then she needs to decide what is her priority and how important it is too move on to the next level ASAP
another thing nobody is mentioning is better competition. She’ll get more experience racing pros rather than demolishing college fields
Name one athlete that had a significant altitude adjusted improvement beyond their expected career trajectory after turning pro from college.
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toot the rear end wrote:
I think she should go pro today. She could get a huge contract but if she stagnates or gets injured, money decreases or disappears if a career ending injury.
She already has a contract. Racing in college no longer limits your ability to get money from sponsors. Financially, she may be less valuable outside the NCAA, currently.
She races at a level that has a lot of visibility and she wins a lot. Going pro would get her into high profile fields overseas, but she is not going to win many world class races. Her earning potential is higher in college where she can build experience and continue to develop. Additionally, her coaches are probably pretty protective of her, and it is not like they are placing her in every meet on the schedule. They are deliberately prepping her for NCAA meets and not burning her out.
This will be the new normal. There is incentive for athletes to stay in college now. They can collect a check from outside sources, while staying in their comfort zone and maintaining a team and supportive environment. Until things change, the current model could likely make NCAA track and field a very professional league.
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You don't understand. She has a one year NIL deal. If she breaks her leg tomorrow, game over. If she signs a 10 year pto contract, she is set for life.
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Maybe she doesn't care as much about money and fame as some people think. She's never exhibited those traits to my knowledge, but she has expressed a desire to compete in Paris in 2024. If that's what she really wants to do, her best chance is to leave school and train with pros.
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My thinking changed after I watched the ACC Champs. In the 3000, after she jogged across the finish line and stopped, the camera panned back and the finishing straight was completely empty. It hit me then that it is time for her to move on.
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Sliding Scale wrote:
She already has a contract. Racing in college no longer limits your ability to get money from sponsors. Financially, she may be less valuable outside the NCAA, currently.
She races at a level that has a lot of visibility and she wins a lot. Going pro would get her into high profile fields overseas, but she is not going to win many world class races. Her earning potential is higher in college where she can build experience and continue to develop. Additionally, her coaches are probably pretty protective of her, and it is not like they are placing her in every meet on the schedule. They are deliberately prepping her for NCAA meets and not burning her out.
This will be the new normal. There is incentive for athletes to stay in college now. They can collect a check from outside sources, while staying in their comfort zone and maintaining a team and supportive environment. Until things change, the current model could likely make NCAA track and field a very professional league.
Do we know for sure what Katelyn makes as part of her adidas deal? How does it compare to a pro contract in terms of pay, bonuses, access to training resources, etc?
I guess I just assumed that it was just a barebones, no benefits deal and is significantly less than what she might get paid in a professional contract. But others wager that it is just as much money as a pro contract, or even more?
I would think she probably is leaving some money on the table by staying in school. But at the superstar level she is (in terms of name recognition and popularity), she probably isn't worried about it in the long run. More interested in remaining in a tried and true training environment, cementing her legacy in the NCAA, and growing into the form where she can actually be competitive once she finally goes pro. And the current adidas deal is just a bonus to all of it.
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Not going to read through the thread, don't really care much even though KT is from my neck of the woods, but did want to say that I hope she doesn't run a marathon for X years.
She has much more of a power stride that I think would not help her at the marathon distance. I keep thinking of Jordan Hasay and how much (IMO) moving to the longer /longest distances hurt her, after she'd been an OT 1500 finalist as a kid.
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Thise two things are at odds. She would earn a great deal of money by going pro. She will have fame while running in college. She is choosing fame over money.
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Ezrun wrote:
Page bueckers well actually lose money when she leaves UConn because there's just less interest in pro basketball for women as there is in college
Because she took this season off with her injury, she will have two more years of eligibilty left. Do you think she will come back for 2024-25 instead of entering the draft?
Aliyah Boston and Hailey Jones (or any of the 4th year player) could use their fifth years of elibility next season if they want. Do you think that will happen?
Come to think of it. Sabrina Ionescu could have come back for her fifth season after the NCAA tournament was cancelled. Why didn't she do that? She could have broken the all time assist record.
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Do you know what the topic of the thread is?
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my tuohy wrote:
Thise two things are at odds. She would earn a great deal of money by going pro. She will have fame while running in college. She is choosing fame over money.
these 2 are not at odds. NIL means college athletes can get paid now, going pro won't necessarily increase her earnings.
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nil fan wrote:
these 2 are not at odds. NIL means college athletes can get paid now, going pro won't necessarily increase her earnings.
Finally, it’s worth noting that Tuohy’s compensation is lower under her NIL deal than it would have been had she signed a full professional contract.
“You have a greater set of rights, so [a full professional contract] would definitely be at a higher level,” Nel says.
Tuohy’s deal was negotiated by agent Ray Flynn, who represents a number of top pros including Conner Mantz and Cole Hocker (the new NIL rules also allow athletes to hire agents to manage their NIL deals). LetsRun.com requested an interview with Flynn for this story. Here is what he wrote in response: “I am not able to speak to any contract specifics but only that I have exclusively and only a Name Image and Likeness arrangement with Katelyn through NC State University.”
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That changed in 2022. In July, to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Title IX, adidas announced it would sponsor 15 female student-athletes. The deals was handled by the adidas team responsible for the brand’s sponsorships with NCAA schools. Tuohy’s deal, meanwhile, was handled through adidas’ sports marketing department for running, and as a result could have a much bigger impact on the sport.
katelyn kinda has a semi-pro contract for the simple fact that they needed the top pro athletes agent to represent her
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