There are new coaches at her college but Wiley still considers the Johnsons to be her coaches. They are the reason why Wiley backed out of Colorado and so she is sticking with the Johnsons.
Huntington University is devoid of leadership. They ignored the obvious red flags of a sociopathic coach in 2019/2020. They hired the sociopath's wife to take over and allowed the wife to further manipulate kids in 2021/2022. And now in 2023, the current coaches/admin parade their kids around and expect everything will just go away and people will forget. How is this benefitting the student athletes? They are making this way worse because they refuse to stand up, be adults and accept the truth behind their failures.
It's obvious what they plan to do at NAIA nationals in coming weeks too. Replay 2020 when they rode two distance runners to a national title. How did that play out?
I watched the meet with my wife and sons. When I saw her leading, I mentioned the Huntington situation. They had never even heard the school name before. I called my parents last night to talk about the meet. They asked who the high school girl was leading the 1500. They had never heard of her or the college before. 95% of track fans watch meets and kniw nothing about things off of the track. Ask a high school track team of 100 boys and 100 girls and 10 coaches and you may find one or two who ate aware of the situation.
Ok but people in the running community know. Average person doesn't follow most doping scandals closely, they only know when it reaches lance armstrong levels.
The OP was asking why there are no threads on this site talking about her.
I’m absolutely clueless as to what is going on. I haven’t followed this case. Can someone give me a breakdown? A fast HS girl turned down an offer at Colorado and is suspected of doping? What’s going on exactly? I tried googling her but all it says is she is going to Huntington University now. Doesn’t offer any other info.
There's a 400-page that on the topic here if you want to catch up:
Allegations regarding the Huntington University track and field team where Nick Johnson used to coach and now his wife Lauren Johnson coaches continue to come out thanks to the great reporting by David Woods and continue to...
Steve Taylor for the university of Richmond was a complete d*ck head back in the day. I look back at him now and just laugh at how pathetic he is. Imagine being a grown adult and intimidating 18-19 year olds?
what's this all about ?
He didn’t do anything “wrong”. I’d just say his mentality wasn’t necessarily about mentoring young adults. A lot of his runners probably liked him. He was just sort of a hard *ss and don’t think he understood he was dealing with young adults that were trying to figure out life. He took everything as you going against the training/ program when you were just going to him really looking for help. That was my experience at least. In the moment and for years after I blamed everything on myself. Looking back, I was a 19 year old kid that was home sick and probably didnt articulate things the best way. As I am now older, I can’t imagine being such a dbag to a 19 yr old that really didn’t do anything wrong. Everything I said to him was only to him. Never talked sh*t behind his back to the team. He probably thought I was though
usually when a 19 year old girl finishing 4th at USA’s in the 1500m, the message boards would go crazy. But no one is celebrating her because of her past. It’s sad honestly. I don’t think she should be viewed as someone to dislike. She just unfortunately met up with the wrong people who she viewed as her mentors. Some things are just out of her control, especially when you are young.
I feel bad for her too. The Johnsons are awful people.
I’m absolutely clueless as to what is going on. I haven’t followed this case. Can someone give me a breakdown? A fast HS girl turned down an offer at Colorado and is suspected of doping? What’s going on exactly? I tried googling her but all it says is she is going to Huntington University now. Doesn’t offer any other info.
There's a 400-page that on the topic here if you want to catch up:
And ALL posts regarding the topic should stay there and only there. The JOHNSON scandal can be talked about. There is NO Wiley scandal. Just a bunch of keyboard losers trying to get their rocks off by reading about some older guy getting with a teenager. Sick. Only cowards will make a new thread because the other one is registration only and they may be held accountable for their posts. Get your sick fantasies fulfilled somewhere else.
One of the worst things about this situation in my view is that she was an still is a victim -- and she always will be in the sense that she will be viewed like victims of the Chinese doping program: never able to succeed in the eyes of most reasonable observers because there is very credible evidence her exploitation has given her unfair advantages.
He didn’t do anything “wrong”. I’d just say his mentality wasn’t necessarily about mentoring young adults. A lot of his runners probably liked him. He was just sort of a hard *ss and don’t think he understood he was dealing with young adults that were trying to figure out life. He took everything as you going against the training/ program when you were just going to him really looking for help. That was my experience at least. In the moment and for years after I blamed everything on myself. Looking back, I was a 19 year old kid that was home sick and probably didnt articulate things the best way. As I am now older, I can’t imagine being such a dbag to a 19 yr old that really didn’t do anything wrong. Everything I said to him was only to him. Never talked sh*t behind his back to the team. He probably thought I was though
Thanks for responding. I had a similar experience.
And ALL posts regarding the topic should stay there and only there. The JOHNSON scandal can be talked about. There is NO Wiley scandal. Just a bunch of keyboard losers trying to get their rocks off by reading about some older guy getting with a teenager. Sick. Only cowards will make a new thread because the other one is registration only and they may be held accountable for their posts. Get your sick fantasies fulfilled somewhere else.
OK...has anyone ever found out why Lauren and Nick were sent packing from OTC? Most athletes aren't asked to leave a team after making a world championship spot.
Why is Lauren Johnson still attending Huntington meets?
Why would Huntington hire Lauren Johnson as the head coach after knowing what Nick was charged with and admitted guilt to?
Why would Huntington allow Nick to work on university property after he admitted guilt to his crimes?
And ALL posts regarding the topic should stay there and only there. The JOHNSON scandal can be talked about.
There is NO Wiley scandal.
You're totally missing the point.
Wiley set a 12 second 1600 PR to smash the high school record while being coached by the Johnsons. The same Johnsons that have been sued by former runners for giving them performance enhancing drugs.
So yes, there is very much a Wiley scandal.
Do you think that other college runners treat Wiley poorly at meets because they care that Wiley fooled around with her coach? No!
They treat Wiley poorly because she chose to drop a highly rated D1 school (Colorado) to attend with a school connected to performance enhancing drugs, and said that that school was the best way for her to continue running at a high level.
And ALL posts regarding the topic should stay there and only there. The JOHNSON scandal can be talked about. There is NO Wiley scandal. Just a bunch of keyboard losers trying to get their rocks off by reading about some older guy getting with a teenager. Sick. Only cowards will make a new thread because the other one is registration only and they may be held accountable for their posts. Get your sick fantasies fulfilled somewhere else.
OK...has anyone ever found out why Lauren and Nick were sent packing from OTC? Most athletes aren't asked to leave a team after making a world championship spot.
Why is Lauren Johnson still attending Huntington meets?
Why would Huntington hire Lauren Johnson as the head coach after knowing what Nick was charged with and admitted guilt to?
Why would Huntington allow Nick to work on university property after he admitted guilt to his crimes?
This is why the story is so captivating. There are few good answers. Just lots of evidence of conflicts of interest, corruption at the highest levels of the University, doping and other law-breaking, and unfathomably bad decision-making. If it were just another story of creepy coach grooms and assaults teenager we would have stopped talking about a long time ago -- for better or for worse.
Sure she has new coaches, but it's the same old things. Everyone knows HU is still cheating. The new coach coaches under the guise of "God put me here" and "they love Christ". Except the only talks about how much $ he's getting paid, how much scholarship budget he has, his course, his facilities...All built on broken women. HU will get their reward; it's just too bad they keep hurting people in the meantime.
Man, she doesn't have an actually support network outside of this mess. Huntington, the town and university, has shaped her world view and she hasn't had the opportunity to get an outside prospective.
Note that the other women in this program that are now suing the university didn't, at least fully, comprehend how bad and messed up things were until they left.
That's the main problem. Wiley's parents weren't very good so Wiley saw the Johnsons as a step up.
Now Wiley needs to find another coach or mentor that is a step up from the Johnsons and move on. Hopefully that happens sooner rather than later.
When Wiley leaves her current situation, she'll likely need a ton of support, or she'll fall off a click. She's sheltered and shielded from the reality of what she's experiencing because of where she's living and the very small number of people that she's interacting with.
I don't like what she said about the other victims, but, she has genuinely been led to believe everything she's saying (remember, this started at the age of about 14).
I hope Wiley gets out if Huntingdon tomorrow, takes a break from running, gets a ton of support and mentoring and eventually lives a great life (with or without racing).
And finally, I understand why she's criticised and if you take her words literally, she deserves thr criticism. But I wish people would be lighter on her because nobody on this site knows the true extent of what's going on at Huntingdon and to Wiley.
Man, she doesn't have an actually support network outside of this mess. Huntington, the town and university, has shaped her world view and she hasn't had the opportunity to get an outside prospective.
Note that the other women in this program that are now suing the university didn't, at least fully, comprehend how bad and messed up things were until they left.
OK...has anyone ever found out why Lauren and Nick were sent packing from OTC? Most athletes aren't asked to leave a team after making a world championship spot.
Why is Lauren Johnson still attending Huntington meets?
Why would Huntington hire Lauren Johnson as the head coach after knowing what Nick was charged with and admitted guilt to?
Why would Huntington allow Nick to work on university property after he admitted guilt to his crimes?
This is why the story is so captivating. There are few good answers. Just lots of evidence of conflicts of interest, corruption at the highest levels of the University, doping and other law-breaking, and unfathomably bad decision-making. If it were just another story of creepy coach grooms and assaults teenager we would have stopped talking about a long time ago -- for better or for worse.
Why was a 'major shoe company' (named in the court filing docs) sponsoring performance enhancing injection experiments at Huntington?
And ALL posts regarding the topic should stay there and only there. The JOHNSON scandal can be talked about.
There is NO Wiley scandal.
You're totally missing the point.
Wiley set a 12 second 1600 PR to smash the high school record while being coached by the Johnsons. The same Johnsons that have been sued by former runners for giving them performance enhancing drugs.
So yes, there is very much a Wiley scandal.
Do you think that other college runners treat Wiley poorly at meets because they care that Wiley fooled around with her coach? No!
They treat Wiley poorly because she chose to drop a highly rated D1 school (Colorado) to attend with a school connected to performance enhancing drugs, and said that that school was the best way for her to continue running at a high level.
The Wiley scandal has to do with PEDs, not sex.
Take an honest look at Addy's overall progression, not just in one event.