The spotlight is addicting for those that have the personality to even think of going into entertainment. Once they get a taste of it, they can't let it go. It's hard to name many that have faded away quietly and with grace. Look at the Boomer rockers... they are STILL at it! You have the Stone still singing, at 70+ years old about how they can't get satisfaction. Bob Dylan releasing books, Billy Joel is touring with Stevie Nicks.. they refuse to get off the stage.
But IMO a celebrity posting photos, footage and content about herself playing dress up and looking and acting weird on social media for attention like Madonna is doing, and has done for years, is very different to performing artists still appearing on stage and writers and lyricists releasing books.
Lots of older people in the arts and other fields continue to do great work and contribute to society in their senior years.
You really think stage, film and TV performers like Maggie Smith, Judie Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Emma Thompson, Glenn Close, Anthony Hopkins, Patrick Stewart, Ben Kingsley, Ian McKellen, Jack Nicholson, Morgan Freeman, Robert DeNiro, Liam Neeson, Frank Langella, Jeremy Irons, Jeff Bridges, Donald Sutherland, Sam Elliott, Kevin Costner, Colin Firth, Tommy Lee Jones, Mark Harmon, Sam Neill, Stellan Skarsgård, Denzel Washington, Clint Eastwood, Christopher Plummer, Michael Gambon should have to "get off the stage" coz they're long in the tooth?
Why shouldn't boomer musicians still play if they're still capable of putting on a good show and their fans are still willing to buy tickets? It's not like they're keeping younger acts off the the stage.
In fact, older musicians often appear with and give a leg up to younger ones. Stevie Nicks has toured and performed with Harry Styles a bunch of times. Nicks' collaboration with Styles has really helped the younger artist gain credibility amongst those in the music and entertainment industry likely to discount him as a has-been lightweight who's aged out of his boy band phase. Nicks has also helped Styles expand his audiences and fan base considerably beyond the erstwhile teenyboppers who were into New Direction.
In his dotage, Bryan Ferry, now 77, has always made a point of having excellent usually younger women artists open for him, in part to give them more exposure. Judith Owen, now 53; LP (Laura Pergolizzi), now 41; Sophie Auster, now 35, have all opened for Ferry on his tours in the past 7-8 years. Plus, Ferry always has musicians, vocalists and tech people of a wide variety of ages in his touring and recording bands. Even as he's reached and passed pension age, Ferry has introduced the world to some truly amazing young musicians, some of them still in or barely teens. Guitarist Oliver Thompson was 17 when Ferry gave him a spot on stage.
I recently saw Ferry and his band Roxy Music on their 50th anniversary tour in NYC and London - and they were great. Plus, the old geezers selected the much younger rocker St Vincent, age 40, and her very young band and backup singers as their USA opening act.
Jack Nicholson hasn't made a film in twelve years -- he pretty much retired, Christopher Plummer died over 18 months ago, Denzel Washington isn't even 70.
Track down the issue of Rolling Stone from the 70s where Bryan Ferry is photographed with what appears to be a fresh load in his mouth.
To be fair, none of them had to rely on their looks as much as Madonna did. Madonna was much more "image" focused. I saw Billy Joel perform this past summer and his voice sounds exactly the same as it did in live performances from the 80s/90s.
Madonna hasn't sold almost twice as many albums as the Rolling Stones in half the time because people liked her looks.
You're right, Madonna hasn't sold twice as many units as The Stones, because she hasn't.
Stones -- 200M
Madonna -- 300M
Did you get your stupidity from your mom or your dad? Both?
You sound like you are barely in your 30s.
Madonna sells a lot of records because she is a turdmonger and people love turds.
If you put your meaning and purpose in ephemeral physical beauty and sex appeal, you die a million deaths before they finally plant you.
False. Meaning and purpose can be put into anything as long as you do it in virtue. God is in everything, so there of course is also value in “ephemeral physical beauty”.
Shame on you for thinking otherwise, but what does expect from one who uses logic but not his heart. This is the strategy of those who are lost in their mind, but forgotten their “physical” body
At the least, “reality” is just a “neural net” with nodes as unique variables you experience infinity in all juxtapositions. All the nodes have values and transpose to all other concepts- so if it exists as a concept- it has value - and if you can dive into that concept with passion- this is zen. It doesn’t matter if it’s sex, or running, or business. Only fools think their are “higher” or “lower” faculties of study
a good life is a passionate life no matter. I would love to agree with you, but actually no - I realize it would be unintellectual and just inherently “incorrect” to think beauty and sensualness etc are lost of great meaning. If anything - they are worth more than everything else as these “simple” things are a cause of so much conversation, desire, art, and knowledge.
but what do I know
i doesn’t exist
I am just words, that exist for themselves. You only find the meaning in me, when you add yourself
There is an unsubstantiated rumor that Madonna actually died 10 years ago and what we're currently seeing is an errant projection from the Metaverse. Blame Mark Zuckerberg.
But IMO a celebrity posting photos, footage and content about herself playing dress up and looking and acting weird on social media for attention like Madonna is doing, and has done for years, is very different to performing artists still appearing on stage and writers and lyricists releasing books.
Lots of older people in the arts and other fields continue to do great work and contribute to society in their senior years.
You really think stage, film and TV performers like Maggie Smith, Judie Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Emma Thompson, Glenn Close, Anthony Hopkins, Patrick Stewart, Ben Kingsley, Ian McKellen, Jack Nicholson, Morgan Freeman, Robert DeNiro, Liam Neeson, Frank Langella, Jeremy Irons, Jeff Bridges, Donald Sutherland, Sam Elliott, Kevin Costner, Colin Firth, Tommy Lee Jones, Mark Harmon, Sam Neill, Stellan Skarsgård, Denzel Washington, Clint Eastwood, Christopher Plummer, Michael Gambon should have to "get off the stage" coz they're long in the tooth?
Why shouldn't boomer musicians still play if they're still capable of putting on a good show and their fans are still willing to buy tickets? It's not like they're keeping younger acts off the the stage.
In fact, older musicians often appear with and give a leg up to younger ones. Stevie Nicks has toured and performed with Harry Styles a bunch of times. Nicks' collaboration with Styles has really helped the younger artist gain credibility amongst those in the music and entertainment industry likely to discount him as a has-been lightweight who's aged out of his boy band phase. Nicks has also helped Styles expand his audiences and fan base considerably beyond the erstwhile teenyboppers who were into New Direction.
In his dotage, Bryan Ferry, now 77, has always made a point of having excellent usually younger women artists open for him, in part to give them more exposure. Judith Owen, now 53; LP (Laura Pergolizzi), now 41; Sophie Auster, now 35, have all opened for Ferry on his tours in the past 7-8 years. Plus, Ferry always has musicians, vocalists and tech people of a wide variety of ages in his touring and recording bands. Even as he's reached and passed pension age, Ferry has introduced the world to some truly amazing young musicians, some of them still in or barely teens. Guitarist Oliver Thompson was 17 when Ferry gave him a spot on stage.
I recently saw Ferry and his band Roxy Music on their 50th anniversary tour in NYC and London - and they were great. Plus, the old geezers selected the much younger rocker St Vincent, age 40, and her very young band and backup singers as their USA opening act.
Jack Nicholson hasn't made a film in twelve years -- he pretty much retired, Christopher Plummer died over 18 months ago, Denzel Washington isn't even 70.
Track down the issue of Rolling Stone from the 70s where Bryan Ferry is photographed with what appears to be a fresh load in his mouth.
She almost looks like a tarty English girl who has just finished her A levels but then when you look a bit closely at her mouth I think of a lizard or a graboid from Tremors. It just looks like an old mouth where a lot has happened.
If you put your meaning and purpose in ephemeral physical beauty and sex appeal, you die a million deaths before they finally plant you.
False. Meaning and purpose can be put into anything as long as you do it in virtue. God is in everything, so there of course is also value in “ephemeral physical beauty”.
Shame on you for thinking otherwise, but what does expect from one who uses logic but not his heart. This is the strategy of those who are lost in their mind, but forgotten their “physical” body
At the least, “reality” is just a “neural net” with nodes as unique variables you experience infinity in all juxtapositions. All the nodes have values and transpose to all other concepts- so if it exists as a concept- it has value - and if you can dive into that concept with passion- this is zen. It doesn’t matter if it’s sex, or running, or business. Only fools think their are “higher” or “lower” faculties of study
a good life is a passionate life no matter. I would love to agree with you, but actually no - I realize it would be unintellectual and just inherently “incorrect” to think beauty and sensualness etc are lost of great meaning. If anything - they are worth more than everything else as these “simple” things are a cause of so much conversation, desire, art, and knowledge.
but what do I know
i doesn’t exist
I am just words, that exist for themselves. You only find the meaning in me, when you add yourself
The spotlight is addicting for those that have the personality to even think of going into entertainment. Once they get a taste of it, they can't let it go. It's hard to name many that have faded away quietly and with grace. Look at the Boomer rockers... they are STILL at it! You have the Stone still singing, at 70+ years old about how they can't get satisfaction. Bob Dylan releasing books, Billy Joel is touring with Stevie Nicks.. they refuse to get off the stage.
But IMO a celebrity posting photos, footage and content about herself playing dress up and looking and acting weird on social media for attention like Madonna is doing, and has done for years, is very different to performing artists still appearing on stage and writers and lyricists releasing books.
Lots of older people in the arts and other fields continue to do great work and contribute to society in their senior years.
You really think stage, film and TV performers like Maggie Smith, Judie Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Emma Thompson, Glenn Close, Anthony Hopkins, Patrick Stewart, Ben Kingsley, Ian McKellen, Jack Nicholson, Morgan Freeman, Robert DeNiro, Liam Neeson, Frank Langella, Jeremy Irons, Jeff Bridges, Donald Sutherland, Sam Elliott, Kevin Costner, Colin Firth, Tommy Lee Jones, Mark Harmon, Sam Neill, Stellan Skarsgård, Denzel Washington, Clint Eastwood, Christopher Plummer, Michael Gambon should have to "get off the stage" coz they're long in the tooth?
Why shouldn't boomer musicians still play if they're still capable of putting on a good show and their fans are still willing to buy tickets? It's not like they're keeping younger acts off the the stage.
In fact, older musicians often appear with and give a leg up to younger ones. Stevie Nicks has toured and performed with Harry Styles a bunch of times. Nicks' collaboration with Styles has really helped the younger artist gain credibility amongst those in the music and entertainment industry likely to discount him as a has-been lightweight who's aged out of his boy band phase. Nicks has also helped Styles expand his audiences and fan base considerably beyond the erstwhile teenyboppers who were into New Direction.
In his dotage, Bryan Ferry, now 77, has always made a point of having excellent usually younger women artists open for him, in part to give them more exposure. Judith Owen, now 53; LP (Laura Pergolizzi), now 41; Sophie Auster, now 35, have all opened for Ferry on his tours in the past 7-8 years. Plus, Ferry always has musicians, vocalists and tech people of a wide variety of ages in his touring and recording bands. Even as he's reached and passed pension age, Ferry has introduced the world to some truly amazing young musicians, some of them still in or barely teens. Guitarist Oliver Thompson was 17 when Ferry gave him a spot on stage.
I recently saw Ferry and his band Roxy Music on their 50th anniversary tour in NYC and London - and they were great. Plus, the old geezers selected the much younger rocker St Vincent, age 40, and her very young band and backup singers as their USA opening act.
Excellent post and the down votes don't make sense. Compare this to running- some runners (Bill Rogers, Joan Samuelson for example) continued to race even though they slowed down.
Why not do something you love for as long as you are physically capable.
I'm 63 and am literally over 3 minutes per mile slower than in my "glory days" yet I still enter races and enjoy it.
You were right to point out the difference between what Madonna is doing and performers continuing to the perform.
She is 64 years old. The image she has built for herself is incompatible with growing older. Combine that with an insatiable desire for attention and the result appears to be a mental train wreck.
What does she do for exercise, if anything ? Couch to 5K could help.
She's been in amazing shape her entire life.
Back in the day (she's my age so we "aged" together, so to speak, she made a big deal out of running 5 miles a say (in Central Park at one time) and eating a healthy diet.