ESPN: "Caster Semenya listed to run at worlds in Oregon" (5000m)

Almost all universities in US have several male students able to make World Championship (and even record) under women standards. The same applies to Semenya, Niyonsaba etc. Not a big deal.

Ovett did. Aouita did. Webb did. Coe could have,as his road race results suggest, but had no interest in it. Of course none of these guys were world-class over 400m.

Caster shouldn't be there because he's a man and I say this as a doctor.

South Africa is sex cheating.

You are not a doctor. You probably never watched an episode of ER.

Caster is a woman with a condition. She should not compete against women without that same condition.

Sha'Carri not running so you need to take up the fight in this one? You sure know how to pick em.

I’m so glad Mu is the current champion, because people ignorant of track and the facts on DSD runners are always claiming this is just about “white European beauty standards” and “these cis women don’t fit European ideals of femininity” and “white women were just mad at losing to black women.” When you point out that a dark skinned Black woman of African heritage is the current champion - well, as we know, it’s not a logical argument to start with so they stay with their nonsense, but at least they look dumb. As if African women are men: what a racist argument it is.

Correction - Semenya is a MAN with a condition.

Probably the reason why she wears the male speed suit.

The DSD athlete that we know are:

Caster

Niyonsaba

Wambui

Mboma

Masilingi

Seyni

Chand

Ajok (?)

All of them are from Africa except for Chand, who is from India.

Are there really no European or American DSD athletes? Why?

I am surely missing some names here.

If she had never been able to compete ok I can see it. But to let he rrun like they did THEN change things, that simply sucks.

Have some class let the girl run.

That’s because no child in a first world country with healthcare would get past puberty without being diagnosed. Once there was no period (if not earlier), the child would be taken to the doctor and tested. It is only people from remote rural regions without much access to healthcare, (and with unscrupulous sporting agents, coaches and federations) willing to exploit them who end up making it to elite sports without being tested. In the past, it has been Europeans as well.

The women losing out on medals in track are not largely white European women, it’s more often African/African descended women. Mboma beat a Black woman (Thomas) for silver and another Black woman (SAFP) was 4th at the Olympics.

Ok, they get tested in first world countries. Then what? They decide not to play sports? There has to be a few Americans and Europeans, but it does seem way less common of a condition outside Africa

The vast, vast majority are diagnosed before the age of 6.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Disorders of sex development: timing of diagnosis and management in a single large tertiary center

We describe the phenotypic spectrum and timing of diagnosis and management in a large series of patients with disorders of sexual development (DSD) treated in a single pediatric tertiary center.DSD patients who had visited ou...

Link:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5...

Of course they are diagnosed, but they don’t hide under a rock after diagnosis. They surely play sports like every other kid and statistically speaking, they probably do quite well in women sports.

There are. US just never revealed them. Brittany Grinder ring a bell?

Out of 550 cases in the study, five have AIS and one has 3BHSD. The other are conditions not covered by the WA's DSD rule. (Not sure if all five are relevant, since it does not give a breakdown between CAIS and PAIS.) Most are people with either Turner or Klinefelter syndrome. Five people with AIS got their diagnosis between zero and 15 years old with a median of 7.7.