It’s not the type of race for her to PR. She needs to run a fairly even pace so she would be running a race within a race.
Its not your race, its not your problem.
That makes no sense. You’re saying she can get a PR and I believe it’s not the type of race to do so. Everyone on LR likes to speculate about races to be run by other people and that’s what you’re doing as well.
I’m just reading you running your cocky immature mouth as usual. Bashing every runner not named Tuohy. Listening to your blasphemy as you worship a person over God. Just listening to you set yourself up for the old proverb, “pride comes before the fall.” It’s creepy your thinking about me! You need some counseling!
Tuohy is such a palate cleanser. And honestly so is Wayment, and the new guard coming up. Women's pro running has taken a hit and feels a little on the downturn. Shelby ban, followed by BTC fracture and suspicion, old legends aging out (Jenny etc) and the women who have run well in the past, not running as well recently (Emma etc-though the 15 was promising) injecting energy and new faces into the scene is needed.
You are correct. But there are no divisions. All are senior competitors for the purpose of racing. There are no age-groups or weight classes. There are no awards for first blonde or first from NY either. Tuohy chose to enter. She will get crushed. Some of you will ationalize it away but those are the rules.
Schweizer and Monson are 2 and 3 all time and barely in their prime. What are you even talking about, They are faster than every American who has ever run before them.
No college runner is making the team in the 1500 or the 5000 unless the pros fall down.
Maybe she PRs, maybe not. Still a valuable experience.
I was reacting to the idea she would be celebrating not making the team because she won’t have to to extend her season.
I really don’t know what valuable experience is obtained from running against people that are currently significantly faster than her. Either it will be too fast a pace for her to keep contact or she’ll be trying to cover accelerations made by people with more left in the tank than her. All she’ll learn is that she needs at least another year to challenge the best runners.
No college runner is making the team in the 1500 or the 5000 unless the pros fall down.
Maybe she PRs, maybe not. Still a valuable experience.
I was reacting to the idea she would be celebrating not making the team because she won’t have to to extend her season.
I really don’t know what valuable experience is obtained from running against people that are currently significantly faster than her. Either it will be too fast a pace for her to keep contact or she’ll be trying to cover accelerations made by people with more left in the tank than her. All she’ll learn is that she needs at least another year to challenge the best runners.
If I remember correctly Elly Henes competed in the Olympic Trials last year after she won NCAA 5k and finished 6th at Trials. Her 5k PR and her 1500 PR were slower than Tuohy’s current PRs. So why not have Tuohy give it a shot - no pressure or expections - just have a good time, get some experience, maybe a PR in one or the other race. Hoping Henes has a great race - she was such a great role model and leader for the younger athletes at NC State during her time there.
Still a good learning experience. Have to say that she and her coaches seem to have a very healthy sense of what she needs for her development. And you don't really learn how race unless you run. She is not the only college runner in the 1500 and 5000. Some of the top pros will be too fast for her sure. But there are others in the race in her range.
No college runner is making the team in the 1500 or the 5000 unless the pros fall down.
Maybe she PRs, maybe not. Still a valuable experience.
I was reacting to the idea she would be celebrating not making the team because she won’t have to to extend her season.
I really don’t know what valuable experience is obtained from running against people that are currently significantly faster than her. Either it will be too fast a pace for her to keep contact or she’ll be trying to cover accelerations made by people with more left in the tank than her. All she’ll learn is that she needs at least another year to challenge the best runners.
Since you seem to be referring to my comment, I did not suggest she would celebrate not making the team. I said "The last thing she needs to do is make the team and extend her season another month." That is my opinion. Running in WC would be detrimental to her 2022 XC season, at least I think so. Perhaps I should have said so.
13:58.85Sinclaire JOHNSON14 APR 1998USA4Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA)28 MAY 2022121523:59.68Elle ST. PIERRE20 FEB 1995USA6Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA)28 MAY 2022120834:00.34Cory Ann MCGEE29 MAY 1992USA9Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA)28 MAY 2022120344:00.75Karissa SCHWEIZER04 MAY 1996USA1f1Griswold Stadium, Portland, OR (USA)11 JUN 2022119954:04.26Eleanor FULTON17 MAY 1993USA2f1Griswold Stadium, Portland, OR (USA)11 JUN 2022117164:04.44Emma COBURN19 OCT 1990USA3f1Griswold Stadium, Portland, OR (USA)11 JUN 2022117074:04.50Danielle ARAGON01 JUL 1994USA2f1Vanderbilt Track, Nashville, TN (USA)05 JUN 2022117084:04.72Josette NORRIS15 DEC 1995USA3f1Vanderbilt Track, Nashville, TN (USA)05 JUN 20221168
Sorry that formatted bad but the time right before the next person's name is the time for the previous person
Anyway tuohy is 18th in the United States in the 1500 m but she didn't run in a fast race with pacers so it's really only the top four or five runners that have a big edge on the rest of the field
And out of those 18 how many are actually running in the 1500 as some are specialized in other events
Actually the time is right before their name but it's just it starts with a 1 for 1st place, for the first person so disregard that initial 1 and it kind of makes sense
There is no upside to competing. Tuohy will not run a PR and may lose to a college runner.
Maybe no upside from competing, but for sure she should go. She’ll get a chance to meet some of the best runners and coaches in the U.S. and do some spectating.
