How many NCAA athletes compete in non NCAA comps? I am not directly getting into athletes at college who turn pro and run pro on the circuit.
Sorry; but we non of this College business stuff in the Uk.
I'm not really sure what you are asking. For young athletes, the US doesn't really have organized federations and clubs like you might find in other countries. For young athletes, access to sporting competitions is organized through schools and universities. There are also youth programs organized under the AAU.
To be subject to WADA, you have to be a member of an organization like the USATF. This generally excludes high schools, and universities. It also excludes professional sports like football, basketball, and baseball.
Salazar was allegedly possibly appearing to coach a high school athlete, not an NCAA athlete.
Thanks.
So how many college athletes are members of USATF / compete outside college meets?
Several years ago, a private coach wanted to be hired by a local high school as their cross country coach. This private coach had several athletes who ran under his guidance. It seemed like a perfect fit. But then his fingerprints came back! Well the school could not hire him. But the parents still kept him coaching their kids event though according to state law, he should not be allowed within so many feet of a school. Parents sometimes be crazy when it comes to their kid's potential scholarships.
So how many college athletes are members of USATF / compete outside college meets?
Should I assume that AAU are outside wada?
You're welcome.
Considering the alleged coaching was for a high schooler, it puzzles me why so many questions about college athletes.
I don't know how many college athletes are members of the USATF. I suspect just those who are good enough to get World or Olympic qualifying times, or otherwise want to complete in USATF sanctioned or International events.
I won't tell you what you should assume. I assume the AAU are outside of WADA, but I haven't really looked into this too deeply. The Ted Stevens Amateur Sports Act of 1978 split any Olympic parts of the AAU off, and the athletics part of that union became The Athletic Congress (TAC), and eventually USATF. The AAU was left in charge of whatever remained not connected to the US Olympic movement.
Interestingly it also says member organizations includes "the National Federation of State High School Associations".
That doesn't mean all NCAA and high school athletes are automatically USATF members subject to USADA/WADA. I guess there must be some benefit or cooperation, like making membership easier for student athletes.
What I do know is that WADA and the IOC were critical of the US professional and collegiate organizations exclusion from WADA as late as Nov. 2020.
""The IOC continues to encourage the U.S. professional leagues, in which the most popular American athletes play, and the U.S. college sports organization (NCAA), from which the vast majority of the most successful U.S. athletes come, to apply the World Anti-Doping Code," the IOC said in a statement.
"Unfortunately, they are exempt from this new (Rodchenkov) Act, and they have so far not accepted the World Anti-Doping Code.""
The International Olympic Committee (IOC) on Tuesday acknowledged the passing of the Rodchenkov Anti-Doping Act (RADA) in the U.S. Senate but questioned why American professional and college athletes are exempt from the legis...
Same exact scenario with Shelby Houlihan.. WADA can't stop her from training, racing time trials, training with others and getting fit AF. She happy.
Why is no prison or labor camp sentence enforced as punishment? There just seems to be zero meaningful deterrent from doping in sports. You can almost hardly blame someone for doping as the benefit/risk assessment looks to be largely in favor of doping with the current set of laws that are in place.
Interestingly it also says member organizations includes "the National Federation of State High School Associations".
That doesn't mean all NCAA and high school athletes are automatically USATF members subject to USADA/WADA. I guess there must be some benefit or cooperation, like making membership easier for student athletes.
What I do know is that WADA and the IOC were critical of the US professional and collegiate organizations exclusion from WADA as late as Nov. 2020.
""The IOC continues to encourage the U.S. professional leagues, in which the most popular American athletes play, and the U.S. college sports organization (NCAA), from which the vast majority of the most successful U.S. athletes come, to apply the World Anti-Doping Code," the IOC said in a statement.
"Unfortunately, they are exempt from this new (Rodchenkov) Act, and they have so far not accepted the World Anti-Doping Code.""
Same exact scenario with Shelby Houlihan.. WADA can't stop her from training, racing time trials, training with others and getting fit AF. She happy.
Why is no prison or labor camp sentence enforced as punishment? There just seems to be zero meaningful deterrent from doping in sports. You can almost hardly blame someone for doping as the benefit/risk assessment looks to be largely in favor of doping with the current set of laws that are in place.
Because strict liability would not be good enough for prison type punishment.
Also for criminal cases there would be no assumptions that the lab did their work correctly.
Chain of custody where the evidence was in a car boot for a few days and then went by currier would not work.
Despite all the sexual assault allegations, he’s still a phenomenal coach. I would let him coach my kids if the opportunity presented itself. Let him be.
Sure. If you're fine with your kids being potentially molested.
Now I know Cait Chock recently moved back to Portland was was considering giving running another shot and she was posting pics with Al Sal on her social media. He of course was her coach before her accident. As soon as I saw those I had to wonder what was up. Now I read this post, but the pics could mean nothing.
Despite all the sexual assault allegations, he’s still a phenomenal coach. I would let him coach my kids if the opportunity presented itself. Let him be.
That's like saying, Despite the teenage boys, John Wayne Gacy was a heck of a community organizer.
Spotting of AlSal at the Arkansas Qualifier meet yesterday. Appeared to be coaching one of the nations best high schoolers that raced the mile there that day. Might be getting taken care of by Nike still even though he is banned.
He can still coach, he is just "prohibited from participating, in any capacity, in any activity or competition authorized by, organized by, sanctioned by, or under the auspices of USATF or the USOPC, the national governing bodies recognized by the USOPC, and/or any Local Affiliated Organizations of a national governing body recognized by USATF and/or the USOPC (including any USATF associations and clubs)."
NSAF just partnered with AAU and they have nothing to do with USATF or USOPC and he can coach as many high school athletes as he wants to a long as they are not at a governing body affiliated event.
