Is it true that some women are getting "shortpilled"?

jamin wrote:

OozmaKappa wrote:

I dont think you understood what I said.

The logic is that if I for instance am convinced my soulmate is a redhead and only pursue redheads, then that is a huge constraint on my dating pool. If you filter out the majority of your options based on criteria that only a small minority of the population can fit, then you will have a much harder time finding a good match.

What are you talking about? Being short is a sexually unattractive trait for men. Filtering out people with unattractive traits (I assume you're speaking about filtering in the literal sense like a setting on a dating app) is exactly what one should do to find a good match.

No one is saying bring short isn't a major turn-off. "Shortpilled" is the idea that, if women could get over their hangup with this one (admittedly important) attribute, they could land a guy who is rich, personable, and attractive (except height-wise) who was invisible to all other women.

Finally, someone with good reading comprehension.

Does IQ play a role in this game?

By using terms like hangup you're making it sound like a person chooses who is a good match for themself.

Women have control over which guys they give a chance, which guys they filter out on dating apps, which guys they are okay being seen with, etc.

Women may swipe left on a short guy on Tinder because they believe there's a 95% chance they won't be attracted to him in person. A "shortpilled" woman may realize 95% was an overestimate.

One reason women don't like short guys is because the height differential doesn't look good on Instagram. This is not a matter of innate attractiveness, it's just a hangup that they could choose to work around.

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

Women have control over which guys they give a chance, which guys they filter out on dating apps, which guys they are okay being seen with, etc.

Yea, that's the point of dating apps: you get to control variables so you can find the best match for yourself. Nobody would use a dating app that generates random matches.

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

One reason women don't like short guys is because the height differential doesn't look good on Instagram.

So? It also doesn't look good if a guy doesn't have a job or drives a beater car.

jamin wrote:

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

Women have control over which guys they give a chance, which guys they filter out on dating apps, which guys they are okay being seen with, etc.

Yea, that's the point of dating apps: you get to control variables so you can find the best match for yourself. Nobody would use a dating app that generates random matches.

Dating app filters require you to make time-saving assumptions, which may eliminate potential matches. For instance, you may set your location radius to 50 miles. It's not that you'd be unwilling to date a perfect match who lives 120 miles away, it's that it's not worth pursuing women this far away if the perceived odds are too low.

wordsmith wrote:

And re the doctor. Yeah women would probably prefer him to be taller but they would also prefer him over a marginally employed taller guy.

Height is just one factor women are interested in.

White collar women are also now shopping around in the blue collar guy isle. Women outnumber men at university. I’ve even heard of women buying their own engagement ring for her guy to give her and show off to her friends.

And more women than men are managers and have senior-level titles. Yet the left is crying about $0.77/$1.00 "gender wage gap" issues.

At the executive level and those who are in STEM, quite a few women make as much, if not more, than their men. And when I do income verification for homebuyers in Ohio, most women are B1 (primary) and the men are B2 (secondary) and make less.

Men need to get educated and catch up, so some of it is on our gender as well to get educated and competitive in the workforce.

I've also read that taller people did well in school b/c they understood social contracts and rules about being popular (not in all cases, there were tall nerds and unpopular people in my school), and a lot of them due to their personality were able to get into good colleges and great jobs after without much problem.

The key is this (regardless of height):

Social skills in HS-->organizations in college-->great jobs out of college and a smooth ladder up the corporate world

Height does help with bonuses but is not the be-all end-all.

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

Women have control over which guys they give a chance, which guys they filter out on dating apps, which guys they are okay being seen with, etc.

Women may swipe left on a short guy on Tinder because they believe there's a 95% chance they won't be attracted to him in person. A "shortpilled" woman may realize 95% was an overestimate.

One reason women don't like short guys is because the height differential doesn't look good on Instagram. This is not a matter of innate attractiveness, it's just a hangup that they could choose to work around.

You do realise that the vast majority of women in the world are not on Instagram?

I went out with a short guy once. He was taller than me, but not by much, and although I'm a slim woman, he was equally slim and I sometimes felt that I might injure him if I moved suddenly. He just seemed a little...girly. Nothing to do with Instagram - I don't have an account. He was mainly a trauma bond type of relationship guy who messed around with other women but that only became obvious some months into the relationship. Possibly that was to do with his height and making himself feel better about himself. He used to mention his height in a negative way, although I didn't care about it. I got the feeling he was the type of guy to post stuff on here, a bit like you have done, and that was the major turn off and why I ended things with him. He didn't have a good attitude towards women.

If you think you can hide a bad attitude by pretending that women are interested in how they look on Instagram, then you are deluding yourself.

Koko the Gorilla wrote:

Dating app filters require you to make time-saving assumptions, which may eliminate potential matches. For instance, you may set your location radius to 50 miles. It's not that you'd be unwilling to date a perfect match who lives 120 miles away, it's that it's not worth pursuing women this far away if the perceived odds are too low.

No, that's not the dynamic with respect to distance filters.

First off all, dating apps are supposed to be like casual dating, different than an eHarmony or Match on which one is searching the globe for a committed relationship. You want matches located closer to you because, in theory at least, they would be more open to a casual meetup.

Second of all, users of dating apps, particularly the guys, try to interact with the app in such a way that it doesn't penalize the "rank" of their profile. It is assumed that the apps credit users who cast a narrow net with their filters and don't swipe incessantly. For example, when you first install the app you might put your distance radius to 1 mile and swipe through a dozen profiles and then let the app rest for a while. As you run out of matches, you expand your radius to 3 miles, and so on. If, right out of the gate, you set your distance to 100 miles and swiped 1000 times then the formula on the app's backend will see you as desparate or trying to game the system and your profile's rank will be decreased, making it less likely for you to show up in somebody else's swipe queue.

Very salient; I think FB is like that with likes/comments. You don't want to seem desperate and then the algorithm will kill you if you are.

I don't know ask Tory Lanez or 42 Dugg they're about 5"3 or under which is noticeably short for a guy. They definitely can pull hot women though. Money matters.

toes to toes your nose is in, nose to nose your toes are in.

Let me rephrase this for you

social skills in HS --> social skills in college --> social skills in business

See a pattern here?

This is not the only path. You need to find another one. Many of us have.