BYU is a joke - Two 24-yr old BYU athletes won 2021 NCAA XC

Vineyard Vines wrote:

At age 24, I had graduated college, obtained a Master's Degree, and taken a management position in Information Technology.

You work at the help desk, son. I’m getting an error message when I print. Come fix it.

quickishguypc wrote:

Eliud and most kenyans age dope. It's widely accepted he is around 5 years older than his official age.

Lol. You think Kipchoge is 42 and still the best marathoner in the world by a wide margin?

this is a joke wrote:

She’s 24

NC State's winning team had one woman who graduated HS the same year as Orton and two that were one year younger but likewise running their 5th year of XC.

Cry harder.

If they are competing under the rules of their governing authority (NCAA), I don’t see a problem.

My two points of LDS contact:

I have a good LDS friend with 8 kids-½ boys, ½ girls. All did missions and at his expense, say, $500 a month for each. The missions for girls were a little shorter. I would rather serve in the military than go on a mission. At least after basic, you are not constantly watched 24/7 and you have some free time.

All 8 went to BYU. I guess they could go anywhere they wanted as long as it was BYU!

No one is doing much athletics on a mission. You are lucky to play a game of pick-up basketball.

The first year back has to be awful. One of his boys ran a 4:12 mile in HS and bagged running at BYU after his mission, He had other things to work on.

I am amazed at a lot of LDS kids. Not only do they have to pay for missions, study, (and train if they are athletes), but they are also expected to get married quite young. They grow up in a hurry.

If you are the kind of kid who distrusts authority (common among the young) or is disobedient by nature (like me), it has to be very, very, tough.

As an aside, I collect rare books and my broker is in Las Vegas, of all places, and is LDS. She is one of the brightest people I know (well read is an understatement). To this day, I can' t reconcile her intellect and her religious beliefs, but it works for her.

LDS is a paradox for me. A successful one, but one I respect and cannot understand. The NCAA policies are justified.

Interesting perspective. A couple things. First, I would much rather serve a mission than join the military. I did serve a mission, and while it's pretty exhausting, I never worried that I would be deployed to a war zone (at the time, we were at war with Afghanistan and Iraq). Also, missions are not compulsory, though there are certainly some families that put pressure on their kids to go. My parents weren't like that, which was good because I never would have gone if I didn't come to the decision of my own accord. As for your broker, there are a lot of LDS people in Las Vegas. something like 10 percent of the city. LDS people have a long history in Las Vegas.

Don’t worry. You are fortunate that actual men will take care of defending our freedoms. You can safely go on your date night to the temple and perform your cult rituals, signs and tokens. It’s a free country. Fun outfits!!! What is wanted?

jshealy13 wrote:

Just so you know Athanas Kioko, the man Mantz out kicked, is 26 yet we aren't hearing a thing about that. Henry Rono won his first title when he was 25... and went on to win many more at an even older age. None of these people are breaking any rule and BYU is far from the only team with people over the normal age. Get over it

And their collegiate careers were a joke too. Anyone over 23 should gtf out of ncaa competition. I’m not saying it’s against the rules or past results should be changed. I’m just saying when I see results of collegiate national championships and the people are old as f*ck, I don’t care about that race anymore. It bad for college xc/track as a fan. Im not even saying they should change the rules. But if you’re 24+, withdrawing from competition is the right thing to do unless you have no shot of placing high enough that it matters.

Just go away and stop complaining about the sport. We live it. We love seeing the best guys run.

Fortunately, your perspective is not likely held by top competitors. None of the top runners in the NCAA, or any athletes truly committed to their sport out of personal conviction (who have given their all for years to reach the top) would choose to withdraw simply because they are two years older.

As many have pointed out, being 22 vs 24 (or 25 or 26 or whatever) is not different enough physically to affect much in running. But time training is! And since the 2 year older BYU guys take 2 years off training then it seems it would even out.

But even if it were a proven advantage, what a weird mentality to wish the best competitors would sit out!

You are a loser.

drop shot serve wrote:

Don’t worry. You are fortunate that actual men will take care of defending our freedoms. You can safely go on your date night to the temple and perform your cult rituals, signs and tokens. It’s a free country. Fun outfits!!! What is wanted?

I should probably add that you're clearly a bigot as well. The military isn't for everyone. I know lots of people who both served missions and in the military. Hell, I have family members who have done both. The military wasn't something I was personally interested in, but I have nothing but respect for the people who have served, You don't need to insult people's religions unless you're a bigot, which you clearly are. I won't be responding to you again.

Plus the team trains all year at altitude. Evil.

I’m not LDS. To the bigoted scumbag, drop shot serve- go away. You are a horrible human.

Yeah. And Ford is 24 and Lagat is 25 for Iowa State. No way they should be on the podium. Not fair. Not fair. Not fair.

Point is they could do missions AFTER graduation.

They do it BEFORE to game the system.

The mormon way. Cheat to fit your way.

Let's see them show morals and ethics and do missions after.

Oh wait, they wont.

I guess taking a redshirt year is cheating too. Mormons follow the rules.

It would be so precious watching your head explode if Mantz came back next year and won again.