The Athlete Special titled his last video “The Last Ride”…he’s 23

What most people on lets run do not understand is that Spencer is clearly making a full time living via YouTube.

This world has changed, you dont have to be the quickest/best in order to do what you want. His views are consistent with around 15-20k, which means he is making a decent amount of $$$.

As someone who averages 2k views per video and makes about $1000 a month off of YouTube, I think he's fine knowing he lives rent free in your head !

Who are you by the way? Just to search for your "faster times" at his age.

According to this forum if you are not able to hit an Olympic standard by the age of 23 you should stop running because you are a hobby jogger. I know many of you had to give up running as soon as you finished college and now you despise anyone who is able to train after that without getting a full-time job, but I´m also pretty sure that most of you who would have loved to live as Spencer does. Jealeous losers

His most recent video has a clickbait headline (caps lock and *asterisks* meant do draw the eye of children) and the thumbnail of him soyfacing so he is officially headed down the path of content creator and his running won't get better.

He is unable to maintain high mileage and completely ignores speed and speed endurance. So what, exactly, is his advantage on 800m runners like District Track Club's 1:46-1:48 guys? What exactly is his advantage on NCAA milers running 3:56-59? He runs less. His 400m is what, 49 low? Dad thinks no need to bring that down?

His gf is retiring and is now a mental health advocate (it's always hyperprivileged people who are STILL mentally ill that want to be advocates). His friends have full time jobs or moved away. He is exactly as mature as 2018-19 when he made his rap single "the Chosen one".

What is the plan here?

xcrunner6 wrote:

What most people on lets run do not understand is that Spencer is clearly making a full time living via YouTube.

This world has changed, you dont have to be the quickest/best in order to do what you want. His views are consistent with around 15-20k, which means he is making a decent amount of $$$.

As someone who averages 2k views per video and makes about $1000 a month off of YouTube, I think he's fine knowing he lives rent free in your head !

How long are we going with this whole "living rent free in your head " bit? I feel like it's played out, but maybe that's just me.

"soyfacing" lol he was haha

But he's also put together the best consistent training he's ever done.

"Well what does he have on these runners who do x y z"

Something about his story picks a bone with you, maybe you had to give it up and now seeing him go after it annoys you. The comment about his GF is weird too.

Maybe, just maybe the guy wants to improve his PRs and run faster than he did in college.

peppa wrote:

"soyfacing" lol he was haha

But he's also put together the best consistent training he's ever done.

"Well what does he have on these runners who do x y z"

Something about his story picks a bone with you, maybe you had to give it up and now seeing him go after it annoys you. The comment about his GF is weird too.

Maybe, just maybe the guy wants to improve his PRs and run faster than he did in college.

Youre right about him. Thats why he should stop training for cross country. I was among his first 1000 subscribers. He was great and informative in college, showing his very interesting D1 track life. Idk what he's doing now. His training plan is wrong.

What do you think is wrong with his training plan?

If you were coaching him, how would an average week look?

TrackFan55 wrote:

What do you think is wrong with his training plan?

If you were coaching him, how would an average week look?

1. Speed development. Think flying 30s, 40s, hill sprints with full recovery.

2. Speed endurance. Think 150-400m reps from 400-1500 pace.

3. 8-10x1k which he does.

4. 12 mile long run which he does.

He lacks the prerequisite speed at 400m to be competitive at 800m. It also hurts his mile. He hangs on, then gets smoked.

His dad has him hammering those 1ks and doesnt get why he's not progressing on them as fast. Hello! He has to start that 2:45-2:50 1k pace at 400m then 600m then 800m THEN 1000m.

5 alarm fire wrote:

TrackFan55 wrote:

What do you think is wrong with his training plan?

If you were coaching him, how would an average week look?

1. Speed development. Think flying 30s, 40s, hill sprints with full recovery.

2. Speed endurance. Think 150-400m reps from 400-1500 pace.

3. 8-10x1k which he does.

4. 12 mile long run which he does.

He lacks the prerequisite speed at 400m to be competitive at 800m. It also hurts his mile. He hangs on, then gets smoked.

His dad has him hammering those 1ks and doesnt get why he's not progressing on them as fast. Hello! He has to start that 2:45-2:50 1k pace at 400m then 600m then 800m THEN 1000m.

That’s what he did with Brooks. The training he’s doing now is more like his training at Georgetown: 5 miles of work with short rest.

When he starts training for track he’ll probably start doing the high quality/low quantity workouts he likes for miles like: 5 x 600, 10 x 400 etc

So your week would look something like:

S - 12miles

M - 9 miles and speed dev (?)

T - speed endurance

W - MLR (?)

TR - 9miles and speed dev (?)

F - 8-10x 1km @ 2:45-50 but walk up to it throughout the season starting at 400m reps and progressing

S - 9miles

If this is what you mean then it’s not a bad weekly schedule although in my opinion it looks like a schedule of a MD guy during indoor season. Keep in mind Spencer isn’t racing indoors and is essentially training for a 10k right now and you’d have to assume he will transition to something more like this once he starts to gear towards MD races

This is not what he did at Brooks. It might have been if he didnt get injured 3(?) times + Covid once(?) in less than a year. But he was not doing adequate speed endurance while he was there. Those weekly 4-8 mile tempos were not ideal training for him at all.

At Georgetown he ran a lot of 200-400m repeats, and they often switched up paces and rest. Ex. 4x2x200m, with 1st 200 at mile pace, 2nd at 800m pace.

5 alarm fire wrote:

Swedish made wrote:

That’s what he did with Brooks. The training he’s doing now is more like his training at Georgetown: 5 miles of work with short rest.

When he starts training for track he’ll probably start doing the high quality/low quantity workouts he likes for miles like: 5 x 600, 10 x 400 etc

This is not what he did at Brooks. It might have been if he didnt get injured 3(?) times + Covid once(?) in less than a year. But he was not doing adequate speed endurance while he was there. Those weekly 4-8 mile tempos were not ideal training for him at all.

At Georgetown he ran a lot of 200-400m repeats, and they often switched up paces and rest. Ex. 4x2x200m, with 1st 200 at mile pace, 2nd at 800m pace.

part of the issue was those "tempos" were more like races for Spencer. And at georgetown, at least during XC, I believe they did a lot of stuff like thousands and miles with short rest. The 200 repeats you mention were during track season. He said he isn't doing indoor track, so I imagine he'll maybe race US XC or something like that before starting shorter speed workout

TrackFan55 wrote:

So your week would look something like:

S - 12miles

M - 9 miles and speed dev (?)

T - speed endurance

W - MLR (?)

TR - 9miles and speed dev (?)

F - 8-10x 1km @ 2:45-50 but walk up to it throughout the season starting at 400m reps and progressing

S - 9miles

If this is what you mean then it’s not a bad weekly schedule although in my opinion it looks like a schedule of a MD guy during indoor season. Keep in mind Spencer isn’t racing indoors and is essentially training for a 10k right now and you’d have to assume he will transition to something more like this once he starts to gear towards MD races

Probably speed dev just once a week and that day would be low mileage (4?)

The 1ks are maybe fine. I was thinking start at (6x1k @ whatever, 4x400m @2:40 pace) and then start increasing 1k pace, increasing that 400 to 600etc, and increasing number of full 1k reps per week until hes at 10x1k at 2:40 or whatever he plateaus at.

I agree it looks like midseason training but I, personally, believe speed dev should be year round and speed endurance is also really valuable even if offseason training. If that makes training look very similar yearround, so be it.

Always thought speed endurance were the best workouts as an athlete, and honestly could recover from them pretty easily.

Obviously he means he has had his last ride of a woman that is a professional runner. Noe he is just going to ride a retired runner.

The guy is a bad of Ds and I don't know why anyone watches his crappy content.

w09f0e9f wrote:

Obviously he means he has had his last ride of a woman that is a professional runner. Noe he is just going to ride a retired runner.

The guy is a bad of Ds and I don't know why anyone watches his crappy content.

*Bag of Ds

Ok I understand where youre coming from. I hope he starts shorter stuff soon and gradually enough to avoid any surprising minor leg injuries that set him back AGAIN.

I agree on the "tempos" at Brooks.