Cal vs USC football game CANCELLED after Cal covid outbreak

The game was going to be so boring, even Covid didn't want to watch it.

no one needs you to tell us to get an experimental jab

rojo wrote:

joed|rtay wrote:

The CDC stopped tracking breakthrough infections in May because they knew it would make the public skeptical of vaccination after the data started coming in from Israel and the UK. In the UK, 87% of cases in the most recent surveillance report for those over 30 are among vaccinated individuals (a demographic where the fully vaccinated rate is about 90%). .

This is the stuff that bothers me. Be honest about the vaccine. I still tink the vaccinei s very good againsgt death which is what I worry about. I don't worry about getting sick.

But hiding stuff makes people distrust the govt. The only things I've ripped Fauci for are consistently underplaying the virus.

He told us a) not to get masks an d b) lied about the percent of vaxxs needed to get her immunity.

I want honesty, period.

The CDC continues to track breakthrough cases in cohort studies, that is, they're tracking breakthrough cases in a statistically representative subset of the population.

The CDC also tracks breakthrough cases that result in hospitalization or death.

There's little marginal utility to be gained by more detailed tracking so they don't do it anymore. Clearly breakthrough cases are happening so the CDC is recommending continuation of physical mitigation measures like masking indoors, screening testing, proper ventilation, handwashing, and "respiratory etiquette".

It's inconvenient and we're all tired of it, but the alternative is to accept higher mortality.

Any of them sick at all?

the macdaddy og yoo wrote:

rojo wrote:

At first, we were told to stay in side to flatten the curve and save the hospitals.. 1.5 years later, the goal seems to be zero infections period even among the super healthy and vaccinated. This is insanity…..

….Why in the world are they even testing vaccinated players for Covid in the first place?

So insane that a public university is engaging in procedures that eliminate risk…

rojo wrote:

2) Now that we have vaccines (plus a therapeutic) for everyone save those under 5, it's time to get back to our lives.

What are some activities that involve you “getting back to your life” that you currently cannot participate in due to mandates/restrictions?

Idk, complete unchecked inflation due to covid and an inept administration able to do anything about it.

99% vaccinated.

24 test positive for Covid.

Gee.

Almost like vaccinations are worthless.

carmine9 wrote:

99% vaccinated.

24 test positive for Covid.

Gee.

Almost like vaccinations are worthless.

Solution?

More vaccines.

carmine9 wrote:

99% vaccinated.

24 test positive for Covid.

Gee.

Almost like vaccinations are worthless.

Here's the part where you get insulted, called a covid denier, etc.

If the vaccine is effective in either a.) Slowing transmission, b.) Reducing a negative outcome from covid...

Then they should play the game.

jamb innn wrote:

Here's the part where you get insulted, called a covid denier, etc.

If the vaccine is effective in either a.) Slowing transmission, b.) Reducing a negative outcome from covid...

Then they should play the game.

That shows you don’t understand what you wrote in A or B above. It reduces the risk of spread, which means maybe 1 or 2 people contract it instead of 10 or 20. It reduces the risk of negative outcome, maybe those people that get it have little or no symptoms instead of being hospitalized. There’s a good chance if you got COVID after being vaccinated and had symptoms like severe fatigue or shortness of breath that you’d be hospitalized if you weren’t vaccinated.

carmine9 wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

99% vaccinated.

24 test positive for Covid.

Gee.

Almost like vaccinations are worthless.

Solution?

More vaccines.

This is the song that never ends. Yes it goes on and on my friends. Some sheep started singing not knowing what it was. But if they don't clue in theyll continue singing it forever it's the song that never ends.

rojo wrote:

I didn't know that at all.

Rojo: Makes ignorant posts

Also Rojo: Admits he had no idea what he was talking about and doesn’t retract anything

This is just like the flu shot. You can still get the flu after getting the shot, but hopefully you won’t have as bad symptoms. You still should stay home from work if you get the flu so you don’t spread it to anyone else even though the risk is lower and they may to get severely sick. No one wants to get sick, let alone die.

It’s like saying “Hmm, should I jump off this cliff or not today? If I do, I’d rather have a sprained ankle than a broken foot” and ignoring the fact that if I just don’t jump off that cliff, I won’t have either.

2600 bro wrote:

If 24 players on a team were sick with the flu (unlikely since flu isn’t nearly as contagious as COVID), I highly doubt Cal would be playing either…

What an inane premise.

Testing positive does not mean you are sick.

The vaccine won't keep you from testing positive; it will keep you from getting sick.

Testing positive for COVID should keep you from going to work or playing in a game because anyone you interact with has had an ample opportunity to get a vaccine to keep themselves from getting sick due to a COVID infection.

Phillypharm wrote:

jamb innn wrote:

Here's the part where you get insulted, called a covid denier, etc.

If the vaccine is effective in either a.) Slowing transmission, b.) Reducing a negative outcome from covid...

Then they should play the game.

That shows you don’t understand what you wrote in A or B above. It reduces the risk of spread, which means maybe 1 or 2 people contract it instead of 10 or 20. It reduces the risk of negative outcome, maybe those people that get it have little or no symptoms instead of being hospitalized. There’s a good chance if you got COVID after being vaccinated and had symptoms like severe fatigue or shortness of breath that you’d be hospitalized if you weren’t vaccinated.

Yawn. What a non-answer.

carmine9 wrote:

99% vaccinated.

24 test positive for Covid.

Gee.

Almost like vaccinations are worthless.

And how many of these were false positives? How many would test negative if tested again?

jamb innn wrote:

carmine9 wrote:

99% vaccinated.

24 test positive for Covid.

Gee.

Almost like vaccinations are worthless.

Here's the part where you get insulted, called a covid denier, etc.

If the vaccine is effective in either a.) Slowing transmission, b.) Reducing a negative outcome from covid...

Then they should play the game.

Here is the thing. You guys purposely post this garbage every day even though you know it is misinformation. You participate in Covid threads every single day. Yet you continue to post the same bs like a broken record.

- The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid. It allows your immune system to fight it easily. You know this already.

- The vaccine reduces the likelihood of transmission but doesn’t eliminate it. You already know this.

- 24 players have Covid. If 24 players had the flu they wouldn’t play either.

Eric Topol and others have been shouting at the top of their lungs about the paucity of data on breakthrough infections. It is not just a problem that the CDC isn't collecting data. It is a problem that the CDC isn't requiring state and local health authorities to collect that data. I think the CDC has been squeamish about issuing big mandates on data collection because they know that there will be a knee jerk reaction from red state governors and executive orders from the likes of Abbott and DeSantis barring collection of breakthrough data just to own the libs.

I think on the political end of the CDC and HHS the goal is to reduce hospitalizations from COVID to manageable level through vaccination. I think they are resigned to the fact that vaccine resistance is substantial in the US and will not be overcome anytime soon. So, they do not want to approach the issue of vaccination efficacy versus infection because they know that the US will never reach sufficient levels of vaccination to even have that be an option.

Unfortunately, the large numbers of people who have not been vaccinated also mean that the next big surge, which may well be underway in the midwest and mountain states, will find enough naïve immune systems out there to again push health systems to their brink. That means we still need to take measures to contain outbreaks and implement masks and other restrictions when COVID infection rates surge.

During the last surge, a guy in my office lost his 30 year old son to COVID. He was not vaccinated and left behind four young kids, including a baby and a stay at home wife. We are getting closer to a stage with COVID where the risks of infection are reduced enough through vaccination and therapeutics that we can drop a lot of the COVID protocols and won't see huge surges in hospitalizations. But we just aren't there yet. There are too many who are not vaccinated out there and waning immunity is going to allow a lot of spread this winter even though the vaccinated will still have strong protection from severe illness.

Turtleb wrote:

Covid has been in the US roughly 2 years. The vaccine has been around roughly 1 year.

Number of deaths in year 1 vs. year 2, roughly the same.

You'd think there would be some sort of re-evaluation.

I cannot fathom that someone would be this ignorant yet still feel comfortable posting publicly. They say Dunning-Kruger has failed to replicate but I am still a believer....

I suggest you take a look at a my world-famous thread: "Pandemic of the Unvaccinated: CONFIRMED". This will explain your many errors you managed to pack into 3 lines.