It’s strange that this was deleted from Medium. What’s thr controversy I’m missing?
It’s strange that this was deleted from Medium. What’s thr controversy I’m missing?
If this had happened two or more years ago you'd have noticed that you felt "rough," that you had cough and a fever, figured it was a bad cold and laid low until the fever went down and you felt better. But now you see and hear about COVID at every turn and how awful it is so you go and get tested and find you have it. What was once an experience so mild you'd likely forget it even happened after a while will instead become a major life event for you.
Why did it get deleted? The author deleted it or Medium deleted it? Would BAA have reached out to bury something like this or just the author because they got attacked on LRC. I feel like it read more like a description instead of putting blame on anybody or anything. The author did test negative. BAA did have great safety precautions. Future races shouldn't take the one example of someone slipping through the cracks when the event, as a whole, was as safe as any event out there. I don't fault the author for writing the piece. I think it's a good reminder that a vaccinated person can contract the virus & spread it to others. It's our current reality. It should be a reminder to everyone to go out & get vaccinated. It's been long enough. You've had enough time to research. Your due date is here.
This tells you all you need to know about covid.
Covid is statistically a non-factor unless you're living in a nursing home or about to die from some other major disease.
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Brunner wrote:
I didn't realize I had it... I still thought the race did a decent job with precautions. I think we are at the point, where we have to assume that in a large group, someone around you could always have Covid-19 and not know it yet. Every large race is a calculated risk.
Um... That's been the established scientific fact (e.g. F'ing obvious) for over a 18 months!
The OP should tracked down and put in solitary confinement for the rest of their life for this atrocity.
Living life is a calculated risk. Hell, people that lived through Boston 2013 know that too well.
ghost_coach wrote:
Brunner wrote:
I didn't realize I had it... I still thought the race did a decent job with precautions. I think we are at the point, where we have to assume that in a large group, someone around you could always have Covid-19 and not know it yet. Every large race is a calculated risk.
Um... That's been the established scientific fact (e.g. F'ing obvious) for over a 18 months!
Yes, though I think we know tons more than 18 months ago about COVID spread. Considering there've been no evidence of superspread events at either CFB/NFL stadiums or road races even through Delta in hotspot locations, it's fair to say the risk here is on the low side. The far bigger risk is an indoor event, dinners and holidays with friends/family, and so on especially if someone with you is symptomatic or unvaxxed.
NERunner03533 wrote:
I think it's a good reminder that a vaccinated person can contract the virus & spread it to others. It's our current reality. It should be a reminder to everyone to go out & get vaccinated.
Its a even better reminder to get historically validated real vaccines as part of your arsenal to combat coronavirus instead of forcing the money maker ($XX a pop instead of like $X) on people as the only choice. It obviously isn't the 99.5% wonder drug as advertised and the real vaccines have always had the added benefit of going into people's arms since they were children and living full lifes with no known long term adverse effects.
The probability of dying in a car accident in a modern car while driving sober or riding with a sober driver is negligible. I still wear my seatbelt. In the event that I got in a perfectly survivable car accident but ended up disabled or dead because I didn't wear my seatbelt, that would be pretty f*cking stoopid of me.
juvie wrote:
2 immutable facts:
1. I will get covid somewhere along the way (vaccinated or not)
2. I will in all likelihood survive (vaccinated or not). There is a small chance I won’t (vaccinated or not)
I don’t see the point of getting vaccinated if I am going to get infected anyway. Part of me embraces that and wants to get it over with. But I follow all safety protocols anyways, in order to be respectful to others in my community. When I do get infected, I will quarantine to avoid posing a risk to others.
Vaccines PROBABLY do work. I appreciate and support that many (most?) people want to get vaccinated. I believe that the benefit is incremental, which varies from person to person. Negligible for the young or healthy. Impactful for the elderly and not so robust. I fall in the former category. I have limited interaction with other people, and guard those interactions carefully for their benefit if not mine.
If it turns out badly for me, then that’s on me. I’m okay with that. Danger lurks in all forms out there, even if I don’t get out of bed in the mornings.
the majority of covid hospitalizations now are among the FULLY VAXED. you took the jab, now pay the price!
LRC note from Rojo.
That may very well be true. I know it's true in the UK / Israel, but that doesn't mean vaccines arne't helping a great deal. They aren't 100% but they are pretty darn good.
According to Ben Shapiro, something like 7,500 Americans that are fully vaxxed have died due to Covid. Let's accept that as true.
Over 189 million Americans have been vaccinated. That means 140 million aren't vaxxed and of that group over 700,000 of them have died.
Which odds do you like better?
Unvaxxed Deaths in USA: 700,000/140,000,000 - .5%
or
Vaxxed Deatjhs in USA: 7,500/189,000,000 - .0039%
The first number is 128 times greater than the second.
Yes, I know it's not a perfect comparison as many ofthe most vulnerable were killed off before we had vaccines and may have died even if vaxxed but you should get the point. But even if you put the first number as 700,000/329,000,000 (the entire us population) , it's still 54 times greater.
COVID will be with us forever. It's not going anywhere.
Get vaccinated. Get boosters. Stay healthy.
This guy just had a negative test prior to the race. He was vaccinated. He felt fine. We can't completely shut our lives down everytime someone gets an itchy nose.
Society can't function this way. They new progressive authoritarian safety culture wants to keep everyone locked inside forever. That's garbage.
Was it mandatory to show a negative test at Boston? London required a negative lateral flow test no more than 2 days before irrespective of vaccine status. It's obviously not perfect, there were almost certainly dozens of people who were infected but tested negative among the 40,000 participants, but the risk didn't seem unreasonable: most people were young and healthy, and everyone had been at least offered the vaccine, whether or not they chose to take it.
You ran a marathon and depleted your body right as Covid was setting in ---- no wonder your symptoms were more severe than they should have been for a healthy guy.
you got scammed wrote:
the majority of covid hospitalizations now are among the FULLY VAXED. you took the jab, now pay the price!
That may very well be true. I know it's true in the UK / Israel, but that doesn't mean vaccines arne't helping a great deal. They aren't 100% but they are pretty darn good.
According to Ben Shapiro, something like 7,500 Americans that are fully vaxxed have died due to Covid. Let's accept that as true.
Over 189 million Americans have been vaccinated. That means 140 million aren't vaxxed and of that group over 700,000 of them have died.
Which odds do you like better?
Unvaxxed Deaths in USA: 700,000/140,000,000 - .5%
or
Vaxxed Deatjhs in USA: 7,500/189,000,000 - .0039%
The first number is 128 times greater than the second.
Yes, I know it's not a perfect comparison as many ofthe most vulnerable were killed off before we had vaccines and may have died even if vaxxed but you should get the point. But even if you put the first number as 700,000/329,000,000 (the entire us population) , it's still 54 times greater.
posted in another thread but thought this might apply here:
https://news.yahoo.com/johns-hopkins-data-more-people-221500638.html
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Your experience was not the OP's. Want to talk idiotic? How about not being able to distinguish between your own experience and someone else's?
It's not surprising that someone arrived in Boston with Covid-19. The question is whether there was any transmission while there. It's going to be nearly impossible to trace back to the actual race events unless there's a cluster of finishers who came down with Covid in the days afterward. And track-and-trace isn't happening now the way it was early in the pandemic.
I can tell you I did many things between leaving my house for Boston and getting back home, and the BAA events were among the least of my worries. More risky was getting on multiple sold-out planes, riding packed subway cars, eating indoors and sitting in crowded airports. Mask-wearing was ok but inconsistent everywhere (some had flimsy masks, some wore them incorrectly and a few not at all).
Many of these are risks that other racers accepted to run Boston. Also the same risks millions of travelers take every day for reasons other than running a marathon.
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