"Your news network lies!" Joe Rogan exclaimed to Sanjay Gupta.

runnerboy70 wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

CNN lean more and more left everyday, in part, to try and balance out the crap that goes on with Fox News. But CNN would have been better served to play it down the middle.

Fox New is straight propaganda.

CNN is straight left wing propaganda....Fox at least has Democrats regularily appearing and offering opposing viewpoints. CNN is a just a liberal circle jerk.

This is the opposite of reality. But thanks for chiming in Vladimir.

Anyone with ethics/integrity left CNN long ago...

If you listen to MSM, you're a sheep. Fox viewers included. It's a business, plain and simple - they sell you entertainment repackaged as news for ad revenue. Sanjay is a sellout just like the rest of them.

Gupta is/was a neurosurgeon. He doesn’t have any specific infectious disease training beyond medical school.

Presumably he does have a lot more background in medical research and an understanding that studies are variable in their quality. There can be studies out there concluding ivermectin helps treat/prevent covid, without this adding up to the necessary level of robust evidence required for FDA approval.

runnerboy70 wrote:Anyone with ethics/integrity left CNN long ago...

................and got hired by FOX news and Newsmax to peddle their form of "news". They're just talking heads who will spout anything to keep themselves on the air.

If you've listened to Joe Rogan over the years, and are capable of critical thinking, then you know he doesn't stand for much. He constantly re-tracts and flip flops on thoughts and ideas that he can't keep straight in his own mind; maybe getting high all the time for decades ain't a good thing.

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

-Any reasonably minded person that has listened to his show

why in the world is this thread on the homepage... geez...

IVM does not work against COVID.

Early studies suggested it was effective, hence we have some metareviews claiming it's very effective.

Unfortunately most of the best earlier studies are fraudulent or flawed. Later, higher quality trials found not effect.

The evil 'medical establishment' was right on this one back in the Spring. It was far to early to declare IVM a wonder drug or prescribe it to everyone who might have COVID.

Now, it turns out, it just doesn't work at all! Generally, giving someone a random drug that is not proven to work against their illness is considered "bad" in medical parlance.

https://onepagericu.com/blog/debunking-ivermectin-a-complete-guide

Harambe wrote:

IVM does not work against COVID.

Early studies suggested it was effective, hence we have some metareviews claiming it's very effective.

Unfortunately most of the best earlier studies are fraudulent or flawed. Later, higher quality trials found not effect.

The evil 'medical establishment' was right on this one back in the Spring. It was far to early to declare IVM a wonder drug or prescribe it to everyone who might have COVID.

Now, it turns out, it just doesn't work at all! Generally, giving someone a random drug that is not proven to work against their illness is considered "bad" in medical parlance.

https://onepagericu.com/blog/debunking-ivermectin-a-complete-guide

If Trump said it was useless you'd be buying it by the truckload.

runnerboy70 wrote:

If Trump said it was useless you'd be buying it by the truckload.

Trump is a big fan of the vaccine. I am big fan of the vaccine. You = home devastated.

The evidence does not support using IVM against COVID. Anyone who claims otherwise is scientifically illiterate.

Trump is a huge fan of the vaccine since he was nearly killed and needed an extremely expensive experimental cocktail to save his life. Republicans are huge fans of the vaccine. That's why all of them were first in line to get the vaccine ahead of everyone else. I doubt there's a single representative that is still unvaccinated. If you don't get the vaccine you are a moron. Ask yourself why they would want you to think you shouldn't get it when they got it before people decades older in some cases. Why would they plant a seed in voters heads that the vaccine was pushed through too fast and not FDA approved when they themselves took the vaccine immediately when it was available? And at the same time they praised Trump for pushing it through when he had nothing to do with it at all. How does that make any sense to anyone?

Because it's literal political suicide for a republican to speak out against the GOP narrative, no matter how insane they are. The more I experience life the more I realize I'm surrounded by idiots. At least, this has been my observation in the last 20 years.

Sorry I should have said "surrounded by idiots willing to do anything for status or the $".

Why do people on LetsRun act like they're so much smarter than everyone else? Most people here come from middle/slightly-above middle income families that had mommy & daddy front their college tuition, eventual loan payments and helped them out with a down payment for a home. I would their opinions with a grain of salt given most of those same people never had to TRULY struggle to achieve anything aside from a D2/D3 letter and a 15:48 5k.

Zerohedge is not my go to. Better off reading the transcripts and giving an opinion.

going into massive debt doesn't make you smarter. I'm happy to pay for my kids schooling

not evenreally a rogan fan wrote:

dteamin wrote:

CNN hurt his feelings.

CNN lied about what Rogan was taking when they said he was taking “horse dewormer”. They likely knew it wasn’t true because he publicly disclosed that the ivermectin he was taking was prescribed by a doctor and safe for human consumption. Hundreds of millions of people have safely consumed ivermectin, it was never regularly called horse dewormer until now.

CNN didn’t tell the truth either on purpose or accident, but either way their network portrayed him negatively and incorrectly and didn’t retract.

Burying the lead much? Rogan looked like a little kid. Gupta was holding back laughter the whole time. Good on him for going on this weirdos show, he must have thought he could help somehow. Go right to the source of conspiracy theorists. Super hero- like patience.

thisguy wrote:

Gupta is/was a neurosurgeon. He doesn’t have any specific infectious disease training beyond medical school.

Presumably he does have a lot more background in medical research and an understanding that studies are variable in their quality. There can be studies out there concluding ivermectin helps treat/prevent covid, without this adding up to the necessary level of robust evidence required for FDA approval.

Uh what? He has been specializing in Epidemiology and Public Health for years due to his job. He depends on his own knowledge and that of the leading experts in the world who he can talk to at anytime. And it should be mentioned, these principles are not real cutting edge stuff, its basic Epidemiology. Its just that we have know nothings like Joe Rogan being given equal time. Can we hire Joe Rogan to run the military while we are at it? Maybe he can start designing better skyscrapers for us?

The biggest lie of the right wing is that dont "trust" the vaccine thats been studied on hundreds of millions of patients, but are throwing themselves at every crack pot medication with no proof? Weirdly hypocritical. They are just experimenting with anything so they can have their own political medication.