Almost everyone overestimates Covid risk

By the way, this guy, Joe Churchwell, is on a ventilator right now

https://www.facebook.com/joe.churchwell.5

I pray he makes it, but statistically not sure how good the odds are

Leroy Cork Shildt (Herman Cain Winner) wrote:

It depends a lot on individual behavior. If we assume each time you go out in public grocery store no mask is independent, probability of getting covid from doing that just once very very small. Do it 150 times and maybe it's small but not that small anymore in the aggregate

I've never gone to any public place without a mask since the pandemic hit and I have not been on a public trail in 20 months.

(posted 6 hours ago)

"Jennifer Pavlovic ·

Joe Churchwell is my son-in-law. Prayers for his recovery from Covid. Currently, he's on a ventilator and unable to breathe for himself. He is currently stable but we all know how this virus is so keep him in your thoughts, please."

Ricardo Rude wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Nope.

I actually blame Dr. Fauci and the CDC.

Masks, social distancing and other mitigating measures should not have gone away until most were vaccinated.

Starting schools unmasked without socially distanced seats drove us into this current phase.

They should have never made masks optional.

You have to be the f-ing biggest j@ckoff blowhard on these messageboards. Shut up you self-righteous toilet rag

best laugh of the thread so far

+1. how many reports does it take to erase a post?

If you're fat with co-morbidities, and/or 85 or older, you better be vaxxed.

If you're fat with co-morbidities, and don't weigh less than you did on March 10, 2020, I don' t know what to tell you.

you are a pansy wrote:

85% of which were over 85 years old.. AKA they were going to die anyways.

What drives you to present (and spread) false facts about covid? Do you think it's funny and do you think it's benign?

Lessons learned is don't lie, get vaccinated, and don't mandate for a healthier population. Next steps are for Fauci to go away by any means possible and then wait for 2022 elections.

This guy's a middle aged man on a ventilator and did a 3 mile road race a few years ago

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10201059470926671

You realize if everyone just got a simple shot this would have been over is the US a long time ago and you wouldn’t even had to write this, right? Blame the right wing loonies that get their news from some kid living in his parent’s basement posting on social media.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

No people are expendable.

So why was a virus engineered to kill the vulnerable ones more than a year before the vaccines were developed?

I get that my risks of hospitalization and death are "very low" and "very very low". However, the risks of "long covid" are significantly higher (up to 1 in 3 apparently), and that's not a risk I'm willing to take. Hence my eagerness to be vaccinated asap last winter/spring. Not to mention the reduced risk of transmission to my kids/elderly mother/friends and family with pre-existing conditions/etc. Also, even if I "just" get sick as hell for a week or two, why would I want to risk that when there is a vaccine available, the "risks" of which are several orders of magnitude lower than any risks associated with covid itself?

Godless Liberal wrote:

I get that my risks of hospitalization and death are "very low" and "very very low". However, the risks of "long covid" are significantly higher (up to 1 in 3 apparently), and that's not a risk I'm willing to take. Hence my eagerness to be vaccinated asap last winter/spring. Not to mention the reduced risk of transmission to my kids/elderly mother/friends and family with pre-existing conditions/etc. Also, even if I "just" get sick as hell for a week or two, why would I want to risk that when there is a vaccine available, the "risks" of which are several orders of magnitude lower than any risks associated with covid itself?

The symptoms of “long COVID” are so nebulous and unprovable that I’m quite confident in predicting they are psychosomatic.

Test it against a placebo and then I’ll listen. Tell people they might feel “fatigue” after getting COVID, and voila! a lot of people magically feel fatigued.

I don't disagree that some percentage of long covid sufferer's symptoms are psychosomatic, so maybe 1/3 is pushing it. But there is enough evidence that something real and debilitating is happening to a lot of people that I want to avoid it. Even if it doesn't make me run any slower, I don't want my sense of smell and taste messed up for months or possible years either, which is a very real problem for a lot of people. That can of course still happen with a breakthrough infection, but the data shows that the odds are significantly lower.

Godless Liberal wrote:

I don't disagree that some percentage of long covid sufferer's symptoms are psychosomatic, so maybe 1/3 is pushing it. But there is enough evidence that something real and debilitating is happening to a lot of people that I want to avoid it. Even if it doesn't make me run any slower, I don't want my sense of smell and taste messed up for months or possible years either, which is a very real problem for a lot of people. That can of course still happen with a breakthrough infection, but the data shows that the odds are significantly lower.

I believe the loss of taste/smell thing is much less common with Delta, FWIW.

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Godless Liberal wrote:

I don't disagree that some percentage of long covid sufferer's symptoms are psychosomatic, so maybe 1/3 is pushing it. But there is enough evidence that something real and debilitating is happening to a lot of people that I want to avoid it. Even if it doesn't make me run any slower, I don't want my sense of smell and taste messed up for months or possible years either, which is a very real problem for a lot of people. That can of course still happen with a breakthrough infection, but the data shows that the odds are significantly lower.

I believe the loss of taste/smell thing is much less common with Delta, FWIW.

They are saying we are going to need big clinics to treat these people

Godless Liberal wrote:

I get that my risks of hospitalization and death are "very low" and "very very low". However, the risks of "long covid" are significantly higher (up to 1 in 3 apparently), and that's not a risk I'm willing to take. Hence my eagerness to be vaccinated asap last winter/spring. Not to mention the reduced risk of transmission to my kids/elderly mother/friends and family with pre-existing conditions/etc. Also, even if I "just" get sick as hell for a week or two, why would I want to risk that when there is a vaccine available, the "risks" of which are several orders of magnitude lower than any risks associated with covid itself?

You need to stop your goddamn sensible logic, it'll never catch on at letsrun or get enough posts to inflate the ego like many need.

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

A large numerator over a gigantic denominator.

Facts are facts: less than 1% of Covid cases require hospitalization.

Not to OD on the seatbelt example. But what’s the risk of hospitalization if you drive without a seatbelt? I’d imagine it is much, much lower. Getting into an accident is a rare event. But it would make most people nervous to drive without it.

Godless Liberal wrote:

Also, even if I "just" get sick as hell for a week or two, why would I want to risk that when there is a vaccine available, the "risks" of which are several orders of magnitude lower than any risks associated with covid itself?

Didn’t the Webb family get this sick for a week or two?

jimmyjohnsforlunch wrote:

You realize if everyone just got a simple shot this would have been over is the US a long time ago and you wouldn’t even had to write this, right? Blame the right wing loonies that get their news from some kid living in his parent’s basement posting on social media.

Not if the virus has been bioengineered to mutate and become immune from any vaccines. The vaccines are already failing like crazy and that's why the government is panicking by offering a 3rd booster. They can't man up & tell the American people the truth that the vaccines are a failure and natural immunity is eventually going to be the only way to win the day. What's sad about this is Big Pharma has made zillions of dollars off a failed product that they won't be held accountable for. This is truly the old saying of "laughing all the way to the bank."

Big Pharma was the one that said their vaccines would save the day. Lol. Just 2 shots and you're good to go with their false "95%" efficacious rate against infection. Lol. Look at all breakthrough cases causing people to be sick as a dog. I have a good friend who is a flight attendant and was forced vaxxed several weeks. Now he's sick as a dog with the Delta variant on the verge of going to the hospital (he's pissed as snot!). I also know several people at the gym I work out at that have had breakthrough cases that have made them very sick - these people are totally stunned that the vaccine they put so much trust & faith in has failed them. It's a shame this government doesn't want to tell the American people the truth - but I get it, they don't want create mass panic again similar to when the pandemic initially broke out in March, 2020.

I have feeling this winter is going to be really going to be bad with breakthrough cases galore. It's the pandemic of the failed vaccine & Big Pharma gets a free pass!