Hasn't Bobby Kersee been thought to drug his athletes in the past? If so, why are we giving Syd a pass?

Ive never given her a pass.Shes a doper.Too wide,too round capped delts,changed widened jaw,and several other tell tale signs of obvious doping.And jackie joyner-kersee looked like a man,so yes,im sure bobby dopes up his athletes.

There has not been a change in her facial features that I have seen.

However, Kersee's favorite drug of choice was HGH according to several I know in the sport and some reports outside the sport. Among other things HGH allows the skull and facial bones continue to grow in adulthood. This many times results in protruding eyebrows, the Barry Bonds type head growth, or the late in life braces. If the athlete in question is sporting braces in three years you will most likely have your answer.

While there can certainly be some correlation between abrupt physical changes and doping, it can also just be maturation and athletic development. To expect McLaughlin as an adult professional athlete to still look like she did as a teen makes no since. Typically, overtime, female sprinters will get more muscular and distance runners more cut.

Jackie Joyner Kersee looked like a man before she was coached by Bobby Kersee. Drugs had nothing to do with it.

And coaches don't dope up their athletes any more. This isn't East Germany in the 1970's when their athletes were given drugs without realizing what they were taking. Athletes are the ones taking the drugs. And each athlete is capable of make that choice themselves, regardless of who their coach is.

McLaughlin was talented enough to make the Olympic team at age 16 even when her hurdling technique wasn't that good. Do you honestly think she was taking drugs then?

Watch out for hyperthyroidism or maybe graves

Karsten Warholm most definitely didn't come out of nowhere. Have you been living under a rock? He was dealing with an injury leading up to World's which affected his ability to train hard. This was well known and was part of the reason he faded, coming off the 8th hurdle poorly was the other part. If Warholm dopes, I'm sure he was doping as much as usual and as much as everyone else in that race. Let's be real...I also think he should be commended for competing when he probably knew he would lose. He gave it his best shot, no regrets. And he made a point to congratulate Benjamin and dos Santos, instead of being a sore loser. He showed character and I respect that.

Femke Bol is like a female dos Santos. I may be wrong, but she is relatively new to the big leagues, so it's no surprise she's been improving the last few years. Whereas Sydney was elite at like 17 or something like that. I liken it to some people running 60-80 miles in high school while people like Hocker are doing 30. She may be able to challenge Sydney in the next year or two. I think she needs to start 14 stepping tbh though. It looks like she may have the open speed after seeing her relay leg. She was chopping for 15 and looked comfortable over the last hurdle in 15, which is an improvement on how she was covering ground before. Sydney still drops to 16 I believe.

Maybe Felix and McLaughlin are just getting enough juice to assist a little without making it obvious and getting caught? Maybe Kersee has just become a master at beating the system? No doubt McLaughlin would be one of the world's best and even a champion and all-time great w/o drugs. But maybe the drugs are the difference btw 52.0 and 50.6.

you give yourselves far too much credit

It is impossible to verify this belief, that allowing doping chatter on LR has any impact on cleanness in T&F.

I can’t believe I’m participating in this thread. But I’ve a question for those of you who sincerely believe that someone who was clearly a generational talent must be doping. Why do you bother following the sport? I’m genuinely curious.

I’m curious to hear how people think Kersee is getting away with it without SM failing any tests. Or most doping athletes for that matter. USADA would have to be in on the game.

I’m inclined to think most elite athletes dope, but I don’t think they don’t fail tests by exploiting timing. That seems far too risky given the whereabouts rules and random 3-4 tests per year in addition to during competition.

Jay Leno jaw.

I ask myself that question every time I see a WR like last night or see people throwing 22 m in the shot like it was normal. I still get caught up in the moment and then am brought back to earth by LRC.

Yes he dopes his athletes,, we dont care. Just don't get caught and don't miss any whereabouts things

This .....must be doping ....thing is so damn worn out and tired, why some get off talking about it is a mystery to me, try.....boring~~~~

This girl isn't into PED's and only a fool couldn't see that.

So Leno was doping? What are his PBs?