Official 2021 Wetklasse Zurich Discussion Thread (Instant Reaction Show at 4 :05 pm ET)

This is good for the rivalry and will motivate JI to train even harder. I call it 3:23 right now.

commentor wrote:

wow. Really impressed with Norris going for it with Kipyegon and Hassan. I haven't seen her race with that level of confidence up to this date. 4 flat off of those tactics makes me think she's in 3:57 shape.

I've given up trying to guess "ah they ran X off of a certain pace." Look at Purrier front running 3:58 with no pacer. Or Klosterhalfen 14:26 no pacer. Linden Hall 3:59 solo. All indicative of being in great shape, but all either still their PBs or within a couple tenths of it. All of them would imply they were in better shape but that never happened in those seasons.

Norris has had 6 1500m/miles in the last two months, in a variety of different kinds of races tactically speaking. Fast even paced, wind up races, yoyo races, and is consistently 3:59 high to 4:03 (or mile equivalent). I'm pretty confident in saying 3:59 is near enough her best.

Still Waiting wrote:

NO. USA already used their wildcard in the 110m hurdles. Can't get a wildcard entry if your country has the world champ.

Fair point: "If both are from the same country, only one of the two athletes can be entered as a wild card entry. The acceptance of wild cards is at the discretion of member federations."

They could use it on either guy...which is interesting

Pb for Hoare in 4th. Team On runners continue to perform well.

quark wrote:

This is good for the rivalry and will motivate JI to train even harder. I call it 3:23 right now.

That seems lofty, but these two will definitely be battling for years and one of them may go 3:25.

I don't think JI was upset by this result, its the end of a very long season. He was smiling very congratulatory to Tim. Good to see the sportsmanship between these two

Would love to see McSweyn be able to go neck and neck in these final stretches with them. Outstanding run and season from him as well.

another perspective wrote:

Norris has had 6 1500m/miles in the last two months, in a variety of different kinds of races tactically speaking. Fast even paced, wind up races, yoyo races, and is consistently 3:59 high to 4:03 (or mile equivalent). I'm pretty confident in saying 3:59 is near enough her best.

She raced a bit above 3:59.7 for sure having such a solid kick off of 3:16 type pace. That being said who knows about 3:57 that's a huge drop.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

another perspective wrote:

Norris has had 6 1500m/miles in the last two months, in a variety of different kinds of races tactically speaking. Fast even paced, wind up races, yoyo races, and is consistently 3:59 high to 4:03 (or mile equivalent). I'm pretty confident in saying 3:59 is near enough her best.

She raced a bit above 3:59.7 for sure having such a solid kick off of 3:16 type pace. That being said who knows about 3:57 that's a huge drop.

Should keep eating those burritos

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Still Waiting wrote:

NO. USA already used their wildcard in the 110m hurdles. Can't get a wildcard entry if your country has the world champ.

Fair point: "If both are from the same country, only one of the two athletes can be entered as a wild card entry. The acceptance of wild cards is at the discretion of member federations."

They could use it on either guy...which is interesting

That wording is confusing. The World Champ gets the entry. The discretion of the federation means they get to make the rules of whether they use it. For instance in the the USA you have to do the USA championships although you can do any event.

Fred! So another double-bye situation for the USA...

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

another perspective wrote:

Norris has had 6 1500m/miles in the last two months, in a variety of different kinds of races tactically speaking. Fast even paced, wind up races, yoyo races, and is consistently 3:59 high to 4:03 (or mile equivalent). I'm pretty confident in saying 3:59 is near enough her best.

She raced a bit above 3:59.7 for sure having such a solid kick off of 3:16 type pace. That being said who knows about 3:57 that's a huge drop.

You think Katir had another solid run tonight?

Still Waiting wrote:

Fair point: "If both are from the same country, only one of the two athletes can be entered as a wild card entry. The acceptance of wild cards is at the discretion of member federations."

They could use it on either guy...which is interesting

That wording is confusing. The World Champ gets the entry. The discretion of the federation means they get to make the rules of whether they use it. For instance in the the USA you have to do the USA championships although you can do any event.[/quote]

Feels weird I guess. In the 110H situation, yes Holloway is who I'd pick. But in the 100m I'd rather give Fred the bye then Coleman who is just way more unreliable.

With both Christian Coleman and Fred Kerley earning 100m wildcard spots for the 2022 world championships (but only one can be used - only 1 per country), who does USATF choose to take the spot in the scenario that neither compete in the event at USATF nationals for whatever reason?

Brad C Jnr wrote:

You think Katir had another solid run tonight?

Katir is an interesting guy to evaluate actually. He's in the Registered Testing Pool (RTP). The Rocket-Fuel doping that some suspect he was doing would have to stop now. His results (including this one and the Olympics) haven't been up to his hot streak but haven't been disastrous. I bet if the women's 10,000m silver medalist coached by Jama Aden raced she'd get destroyed and we're unlikely to see her ever reproduce that sort of race again.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Still Waiting wrote:

Fair point: "If both are from the same country, only one of the two athletes can be entered as a wild card entry. The acceptance of wild cards is at the discretion of member federations."

They could use it on either guy...which is interesting

That wording is confusing. The World Champ gets the entry. The discretion of the federation means they get to make the rules of whether they use it. For instance in the the USA you have to do the USA championships although you can do any event.

Feels weird I guess. In the 110H situation, yes Holloway is who I'd pick. But in the 100m I'd rather give Fred the bye then Coleman who is just way more unreliable.[/quote]

The commentary noted that world champion supersedes all others. So Holloway gets the bye over Devon. But it doesn’t matter. Are there 3 hurdlers better than Allen? Maybe. But probably not.

jimmy g wrote:

With both Christian Coleman and Fred Kerley earning 100m wildcard spots for the 2022 world championships (but only one can be used - only 1 per country), who does USATF choose to take the spot in the scenario that neither compete in the event at USATF nationals for whatever reason?

Say in the scenario both false start during the final at the US champs.

It's also confusing because the reigning World Champ gets an automatic bye into the next world championships then makes it sound like the country can choose between the Diamond league winner and the reigning World Champ. They can't. So in the 100 Coleman gets it.

I have already brought the link of this Moroccan technical athletic channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYkTZ9HJ_2M

The author of the channel predicted a victory of Cheruiyot.

Users didn't believe him and when asked he answered:

"The language of numbers"!

Who does NIKE want? That is the answer you seek.

Still Waiting wrote:

It's also confusing because the reigning World Champ gets an automatic bye into the next world championships then makes it sound like the country can choose between the Diamond league winner and the reigning World Champ. They can't. So in the 100 Coleman gets it.

Don't like that rule if it's the case.