Let's be frank here: you're not "racing" at 8:00 pace.

calfshrug wrote:

Don’t old people progressively see their ability to raise their heart rate diminish as they are?

English, please. Thanks.

Timetolearn wrote:

calfshrug wrote:

Don’t old people progressively see their ability to raise their heart rate diminish as they are?

English, please. Thanks.

Isn't it the case that, beyond a certain threshold, age is inversely correlated with the ability to raise one's heart rate?

like clint told the scofield kid ......."we all got it coming kid."

different people race at different paces. you're racing if you're going faster than you normally do and are pushing yourself beyond what you think you're capable of.

Nice to finally see a 'woke' version of this thread!

DontFeedTheTroll wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

This is what we call a jog. Unless you are very old or handicapped, don't bother racing at this pace. Instead, do 200 and 400 repeats until your race pace is in the lower 7s. You need to learn to SPRINT first, because 8:00 pace is jogging.

I have never in my life met a group of people more obsessed with people who aren't as good as them.

Do you know how much time chess players spend discussing beginning players and if they are really "playing" the game if they have a rating under 1800? None at all.

Do professional soccer players get all butt hurt about pickup games? Do pro golfers spend even half a second thinking about those who can't break 100?

It's unreal.

It's because the people who post this cr@p are afraid to contemplate that one day, if they are lucky, they will feel blessed to be able to run 8 minute miles for any distance.

So, if you are 200 meters from the end of a 3:30 marathon, and you want to beat the runner next to you, we call this "racing."

On the other hand, if you start a thread and state that such a situation is not racing, we call this a "troll."

Big Red wrote:

So, if you are 200 meters from the end of a 3:30 marathon, and you want to beat the runner next to you, we call this "racing."

On the other hand, if you start a thread and state that such a situation is not racing, we call this a "troll."

Yeah, this should be the end of the discussion. Good effort by Sham this time out though.

I find that the people like this who are cocky and think their 6 min pace everyday at 100 miles a week makes them better than anyone else tend to burn out. Instead of sucking up and finishing at a slower pace, they DNF. Almost anyone I’ve ever followed like this isn’t even running anymore.

If you're not running under 5 minute pace, you're not racing, TBH, you're a hobby jogger at best.

Sham 69 wrote:

This is what we call a jog. Unless you are very old or handicapped, don't bother racing at this pace. Instead, do 200 and 400 repeats until your race pace is in the lower 7s. You need to learn to SPRINT first, because 8:00 pace is jogging.

You represent the worst of this place. There's no need to be a jerk. Sure, you might be young and fast right now. You might have the time and ability to put in a ton of training in order to be fast. Not everybody is in the same situation. If they're working hard and giving whatever they're able (not what you think they should; everybody's life demands are different), then they're racing. Stick at this sport long enough and you'll be over the moon on the days you can hang an 8-minute mile.

Sham 69 wrote:

This is what we call a jog. Unless you are very old or handicapped, don't bother racing at this pace. Instead, do 200 and 400 repeats until your race pace is in the lower 7s. You need to learn to SPRINT first, because 8:00 pace is jogging.

Really stupid. I think plenty of people could say the same for 7, 6, 5

If they’re pushing themselves they are racing.

Sham 69 wrote:

CopperRunner wrote:

Sham could you run 10 miles at sub 8:00 pace?

Maybe, but I can definitely race 2 miles at 4:50 pace right now. That is 9:40 for two miles.

If your not running sub 4:20 pace you’re not racing. You’re just yogging.

See how that works dbag.

I made good money , for many years racing at 8 min pace !

No.

potato_salad wrote:

8:00 is a respectable pace if you lead a full life ie one that is not centered on running hundreds and hundreds of miles to nowhere.

I knew you’d be slow.

Here’s your participation trophy slow poke 🏆

😂

A kid who runs about 4:40 all out for the mile is playing billy big balls online 😂😂😂

Yeah well done, you’re faster than some really slow people. Will you stop running completely after HS Sham?

I ran a little under 4:30 actually.

Sham 69 wrote:

I ran a little under 4:30 actually.

That’s not very good at all.