What's next for Centro?

Whatever gives him the most money. He's gotta start thinking about life after running... he's gonna wanna stack as much as possible.

I'd say he does a fat base in the fall and hops in some road 5k or maybe even 10k. Sees where he's at. Aiming to run the 1500 next year, but also putting in the base for a 5k season if need be.

He'll prob hop in a solid 3k in indoors and base his decision off of that.

Swaglord_the_realest_1 wrote:

Whatever gives him the most money. He's gotta start thinking about life after running... he's gonna wanna stack as much as possible.

I'd say he does a fat base in the fall and hops in some road 5k or maybe even 10k. Sees where he's at. Aiming to run the 1500 next year, but also putting in the base for a 5k season if need be.

He'll prob hop in a solid 3k in indoors and base his decision off of that.

he'll run 7:34 - 7:38 indoors

Even if you look at the 2013 World Championship 1500m, the only slightly currently relevant finalists are Centro and Henrik Ingebrigtsen. Centro’s career has been the longest of any elite US 1500m male runner since Steve Scott.

Spivey's progression, starting from Age 20:

3:38.56 @20

3:37.24

3:37.34

3:36.94

3:34.19

3:35.15 @25

3:34.4 split

3:34.37

3:31.01

3:36.85

3:34.47 @30

3:33.81

3:32.94

3:34.67

3:36.80

3:41.41 @35

3:42.46 @ 37

Centros from age 18:

3:49.54

3:44.98

3:36.92 @20

3:40.14

3:34.46

3:31.96

3:33.58

3:31.09 @25

3:30.40

3:34.09

3:33.41

3:31.77

3:32.81 @30

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3:33.69 @32

Scott from 20 to 35:

3:40.4h @20

3:36.13

3:36.0h

3:36.40

3:33.33

3:31.96 @25

3:32.33

3:32.71

3:33.46

3:31.76

3:33.71 @30

3:35.91

3:36.76

3:35.92

3:40.34

3:37.34 @35

800m training is applied science wrote:

Industry Cat wrote:

he would train for 10k XC as a way for prepping himself for track 5ks

He could do it and I suspect he WILL

No. Matt C. has a 1:44.xx 800 P.B. He is not going to train like a 1:50.xx or 1:51.xx 800m guy who races road 10K races, 1/2 Marathons & Marathons. Matt C. would want to be able to race occasional one mile races even though he may or may not switch to 5000m at Olympics & W.C. For a 1:44.xx 800m guy, racing 10000m is beneath him. I am not trying to be mean. That's the truth.

a few months of XC/10k training would be GREAT for him and make him SUPER STRONG

and I bet $1000 he will do this

Yeah you can throw Spivey in there too. Scott, Spivey and Centro have been pillars of longevity at elite 1500m racong, all with championship medals, and Centro the most decorated.

Industry Cat wrote:

800m training is applied science wrote:

No. Matt C. has a 1:44.xx 800 P.B. He is not going to train like a 1:50.xx or 1:51.xx 800m guy who races road 10K races, 1/2 Marathons & Marathons. Matt C. would want to be able to race occasional one mile races even though he may or may not switch to 5000m at Olympics & W.C. For a 1:44.xx 800m guy, racing 10000m is beneath him. I am not trying to be mean. That's the truth.

a few months of XC/10k training would be GREAT for him and make him SUPER STRONG

and I bet $1000 he will do this

I am going to guess you have a personal bias. Would I be correct in assuming you love racing events 1/2 Marathon and longer?

800m training is applied science wrote:

Industry Cat wrote:

a few months of XC/10k training would be GREAT for him and make him SUPER STRONG

and I bet $1000 he will do this

I am going to guess you have a personal bias. Would I be correct in assuming you love racing events 1/2 Marathon and longer?

No, I race the 60m and 100m

no clue wrote:

I really don't see the big deal. He got eliminated in a tough Tokyo 1500 semi, after scaring the American mile AR and hitting a PB <3:50

if that's washed up everyone should be so lucky. A couple of sub-par races post olympics. So what?

Agreed.

Peak is over for most of the Bowerman group. Their peak was for the US Trials and Olympics time frame. The coach did a great job of that imperfect science.

Centro and many of the Bowerman group will take a rest (much needed rest) and then get back at it in the Fall.

The Bowerman TC gave fans much to cheer about last year by doing time trials during the height of Covid and this year making it to the Olympics and representing the United States and other countries well.

Remember folks, these men and women are chasing their dream, dedicating their lives to that pursuit, and giving up a lot to which we take for granted. You get to cheer or torch what they do - that’s your prerogative. Just remember though… the talent of a Centro and the many accomplishments that Centro has achieved don’t come along very often and for that he is a track hero and should have the respect that comes with having actually done things at the highest level in the sport of track and field.

Swaglord_the_realest_1 wrote:

Whatever gives him the most money. He's gotta start thinking about life after running... he's gonna wanna stack as much as possible.

I'd say he does a fat base in the fall and hops in some road 5k or maybe even 10k. Sees where he's at. Aiming to run the 1500 next year, but also putting in the base for a 5k season if need be.

He'll prob hop in a solid 3k in indoors and base his decision off of that.

Dang.

That's a lot of hopping!

Industry Cat wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Centro running XC or the 10000m is not going to happen. No runner with similar ability and at the same stage in his career as Centro has done that and neither will he.

In regard to your first 2 suggestions, Centro will do whatever he's always done at the end of a season.

He ran 13 flat for 5k 2 years ago. He could do it. And I bet he's planning to

That 13 flat was in one of those ridiculous Jerry time trials

5 sections wrote:

Industry Cat wrote:

He ran 13 flat for 5k 2 years ago. He could do it. And I bet he's planning to

That 13 flat was in one of those ridiculous Jerry time trials

Good point! 👍

Centro should chill for awhile.

Smoke some sativa, hang at the beach, get right.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

simpler wrote:

His GF Shelby getting banned after both of them ordered and ate carne asada burritos from the same taco truck on the same order is what killed his racing drive. Shelby blamed her positive test on what they both had eaten, and Centro supported her claim. Think about that happening, and then think about how it would affect you.

You're mistating some facts. He wasn't there the day she bought the burrito and they were no longer dating by that time.

I thought about it and her getting busted would have no effect on my running.

Yeah, but you are a self centered narcissist.

But so is Centro.

So, good point.

mrmagont wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

You're mistating some facts. He wasn't there the day she bought the burrito and they were no longer dating by that time.

I thought about it and her getting busted would have no effect on my running.

Yeah, but you are a self centered narcissist.

But so is Centro.

So, good point.

It is not like Centro hasn't diverged from the truth before. I don't see how he can make a video the he knew everything she had eaten at that time because they always ate together, and because he did not test positive therefore she is innocent. And he then later says he did not eat with her on that particular day in December because they had split up. . . . This make no sense at all. He either knows or he doesn't. He can't have it both ways. And that is the way Centro seems to do things. Obfuscate the truth.

Here is an image I recall. Centro claimed he was not drinking a beer. Rupp has a beer in hand. Centro has his cap over hand that is covering something. The cap bulges at exactly the point where Rupp's beer bottle top sits. If Rupp put a cap over the his beer it would like Centro's oddly bulging cap. . . . So, the point is who cares if Centro was drinking a beer. Evidently Centro didn't want anyone to know. He made quite the point about it. But why was it so important that he pretend he wasn't drinking a beer. And this is how Centro's world turns. Deny something for no reason at all.

I've been a fan and supporter of Matthew. And his Dad, who I watched run an AR 5000 at Hayward field in '82.

He peaked and now he's losing his form. It happens. But this does remind me of Peter Snell's '65 season after Jim Ryun beat him. Each race seemed to show a decline.

What an odd thing for you to care about...and there is no evidence there that Centrowitz is drinking a beer, for the record.

He'll want to run World Champs in Eugene next summer.